Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Dry Dyno Run

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 12:29 AM
  #1  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default Dry Dyno Run

Here's a dyno sheet, on an absoulutly bone stock LS6, except CAI and self tuned. A quick run down, jetted for about 135rwhp, dual stage dry. You can see where 2nd stg comes on 4100rpm, then slippage on the roller? 2nd hits like a Bull on Crack. I plan on adding a third stage and it will be coming on about 5000rpm, and then I'll have a more linear torque curve. I am also running a fuel curve that is leaner to start then hits the richest point at torque peak, then leans out more as it goes to 6500rpm. So, 11.8 tapers upward to 11.5, then tapers down to 11.7. This will slightly change with 3rd stage. 480 peak HP and 505 peak Torque. This was done on a Dynojet using the new Federal Guidlines/Software. You can add about 10hp to this to compare to old software (new cars are rated this way).
Any comments, suggestions or insight are welcomed.
Oh, the n2o run in my sig was done on a smaller jetted hit than this, maybe tens tomorrow, if weather holds?

Robert
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 02:25 AM
  #2  
Screamin_Z's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: Wichita,Ks
Default

why are you doing a dual stage on a 135 shot?

very nice #'s, congrats
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 02:37 AM
  #3  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Well because the system is designed for a 200/250 shot and that's what I have right now. You don't see the potential of the dry here, an absouletly bone stock, no headers, long block running in the 10's on a little over a 100shot (most think dry is weak-dummies). It seems to me that it's working pretty good set-up this way, and 1.53 on drag radials. There is much more, I had showed up at dyno day to just hang out and got talked into putting my car on dyno, I allready new it was around 500hp by my times. I have some mondo jets coming, and just picked up a mondo set of injectors from a fellow Z06 bud today. I drive my car hard and each step up the power ladder is made carefully because my motor is going to live. 550/600hp is my current goal on stock long block.
Robert

Last edited by Robert56; Sep 8, 2007 at 10:15 AM. Reason: remove referell to a loser company
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 05:29 AM
  #4  
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,023
Likes: 6
From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Default

DRY is not weak That is what I had been running for years

then again we all know my car is slow

Great dyno day man!
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:51 AM
  #5  
JoeyGC5's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,645
Likes: 0
From: St Joe, MO
Default

Damn Robert, I didn't realize you didn't have any other mods, nice #'s
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:35 AM
  #6  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
DRY is not weak That is what I had been running for years

then again we all know my car is slow

Great dyno day man!
Yea, it was a good Dyno Day/Hooters Day. We'll do it again .
Robert
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:00 PM
  #7  
Screamin_Z's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: Wichita,Ks
Default

I do realize the potential of a dry setup and I know ur #'s are awsome for what u've got done. what I really wanted to know was would u get the same hp on a single shot that u got on a dual?
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:21 PM
  #8  
CAT3's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 7,603
Likes: 0
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Screamin_Z
I do realize the potential of a dry setup and I know ur #'s are awsome for what u've got done. what I really wanted to know was would u get the same hp on a single shot that u got on a dual?
Yes and no. HP would be slightly more, but the torque spike would be a killer, which is what kills the bottom end. Splitting it up, you get almost all the HP but keep the tq in check.

Robert very nice results. I am trying to figure out when I can hook my adj window switch to activate the 2nd stage on my dual dry setup now. And of course why stop there right? Need to get some more parts...looking for another 5177 kit, and convert over to a -6 mainline, the -4 aint going to work much longer

Charlie
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:49 PM
  #9  
2001 Red Coupe Bandit's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default

Nice numbers Robert Congrats

Bandit
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 02:19 PM
  #10  
Black02SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,291
Likes: 1
From: Kokomo, IN
Default

Nice numbers. I was a dry hater for awhile until I realized that with any setup, it is imperative that you have to tune it correctly for it to work to it max. With this current setup you have, do you have the same tune for N/A and what is the AFR? I know that you can retain the same tune for separate timing, but was somewhat unsure about the AFR. Does the MAF table need to be altered for the AFR on spray to compensate for the fuel.
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 02:56 PM
  #11  
Chris Stewart's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
From: Spanaway, WA
Cool

Looks good Robert! I'd like to get mine on the rollers sometime. I'd like to compare a Z06+N20 graph to the Z06+STS graph!
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 03:07 PM
  #12  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Currently I have have the same tune that got both times in sig, basic a/f is majority of time at 11.7 and timing is currently at 22*. With this said, when going big, the benifits of dry is you can have truly 2-tunes in one. later models in HP Tuner have a IAT vs Fuel Adder table, and it comes zeroed out. What you do is log temps n/a and on the spray. You will see temps much lower than anything n/a. So, in these areas you can add a fuel multiplier to richen things up. What this does is add to your existing multiper in your WOT Power Enrichment. Conclusion, you only richen things up when spraying and have optimum a/f for n/a. I have just started playing with this and looks promising. The dual tunes for timing can be found in my Web under links, a write up how-to. With dry, you can truly have two tunes in one. I have altered my MAF freqs, but for my Vararam, not the spray. The guys having issues with a/f on dry usually are rich and this is a nozzle placement issue, imo?
Cat, thanks for pointing out the torque split thing. On the vettes our rears are less than ideal, and a all in one torque blast in first gear can shorten the life considerably. Also, a nitrous car with the torque spread through out the run will in fact beat the all in one off the line car.
Robert
Robert
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 03:31 PM
  #13  
CAT3's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 7,603
Likes: 0
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default

And you have the Advance vs IAT so you can adjust that too.
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 03:33 PM
  #14  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Originally Posted by Chris Stewart
Looks good Robert! I'd like to get mine on the rollers sometime. I'd like to compare a Z06+N20 graph to the Z06+STS graph!
Hey Chris, welcome aboard. I was going to tell you about dyno day but kept forgeting, sorry. Check out NW section, we had 3-other Z06's show and a few c5s, gtos and f-bods. I still refer to your n2o run often, on stock every thing.
Robert
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 06:11 PM
  #15  
Chris Stewart's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
From: Spanaway, WA
Default

Yeah Robert it took me long enough to join up eh? Now that rainy season is here I will spend alot of time indoors. Just for fun I made a graph using the power curve for stock Z06, your NOS pull, and the STS combined. I can post if you wanna see it. Here's what I'm thinking... Add a kit to run about 6psi by STS or TTi, get it dialed in, then spray it.
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 06:27 PM
  #16  
1BadpurpleLT1's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, Mo
Default

Very nice ##'s!!
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 07:27 PM
  #17  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Originally Posted by Chris Stewart
Yeah Robert it took me long enough to join up eh? Now that rainy season is here I will spend alot of time indoors. Just for fun I made a graph using the power curve for stock Z06, your NOS pull, and the STS combined. I can post if you wanna see it. Here's what I'm thinking... Add a kit to run about 6psi by STS or TTi, get it dialed in, then spray it.
Sure I'd like to see it. Mark, one of the Z06 guys is looking at Turbo Techs stuff. In the other section is all the dyno pulls posted under one thread.
Robert
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:37 PM
  #18  
VINCE's Avatar
Shorty Director
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,259
Likes: 4
From: Valrico, Florida
Default

Nice!!!! I am seriously thinking of adding a 3rd stage as well. 100 shot at 3200rpm, 75 shot at 4400rpm and 75 shot at 5200rpm and they all shut off at 6500rpm...
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 10:04 PM
  #19  
Chris Stewart's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
From: Spanaway, WA
Default

Here is a combination of dyno sheets. Alot of numbers are estimate from graphs found on the web. I took out the spike in yours to make a smoother curve.

Tell me if this page works or not. It should have tabs at bottom left to view HP, TQ, and the Data.

Z06 HP Chart


Last edited by Chris Stewart; Oct 2, 2005 at 10:12 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2005 | 10:57 PM
  #20  
Robert56's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma, WA
Default

Originally Posted by VINCE
Nice!!!! I am seriously thinking of adding a 3rd stage as well. 100 shot at 3200rpm, 75 shot at 4400rpm and 75 shot at 5200rpm and they all shut off at 6500rpm...
Yea, man, that's exactly where I am headed. Allready have all the wiring and switches in for 3rd stage, and will work my way up on total hp shot.
Robert
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE