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NX MAF or TNT F2?
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NX MAF or TNT F2? Simple NX maf or TNT F2 Car in sig and will be running a 150 or more on the wet along with my 5177 kit at 75hp. 2 stage set-up. Thanks guys Please give a brief discription on why you chose what you did. Are both kits ratted at rwhp or fwhp
Neither, I would run another stage of dry, but I am kinda a dry guy, or a direct port. I would do this cause I just don't like gasoline in my intake track. Both are rwhp, with TNT generally putting down a little more.
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Out of these two. I would run the maff kit. It makes a cleaner looking intsall with no fitment issues.The jetting is accurate.You can use the same plate as a dual stage.It comes with a TPS switch.The customer service is awesome.NX also has more matching accessories.
With that said.THe TNT is also a good kit so you really can not go wrong on either. I just favor the maff kit.
Dave
With that said.THe TNT is also a good kit so you really can not go wrong on either. I just favor the maff kit.
Dave
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I would opt to run the MAF system with both stages, AND run the dry for a THIRD stage. But I tend to like being overkill on things, lol.
Seriously, both will deliver lots of power and once installed both look pretty clean. The MAF does have the ability to run two stages if that is an option for you in the future. Just pick which one best suites your goals and run with it.
Seriously, both will deliver lots of power and once installed both look pretty clean. The MAF does have the ability to run two stages if that is an option for you in the future. Just pick which one best suites your goals and run with it.
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Originally Posted by 1999TransamWs6
Simple NX maf or TNT F2 Car in sig and will be running a 150 or more on the wet along with my 5177 kit at 75hp. 2 stage set-up. Thanks guys Please give a brief discription on why you chose what you did. Are both kits ratted at rwhp or fwhp
All I can say is look at the parts that your getting, the design and material its made of.. There is alot of info in previous threads that is quite benifical.. Thanks David@TNT
Originally Posted by 1999TransamWs6
Simple NX maf or TNT F2 Car in sig and will be running a 150 or more on the wet along with my 5177 kit at 75hp. 2 stage set-up. Thanks guys Please give a brief discription on why you chose what you did. Are both kits ratted at rwhp or fwhp
why would anyone want to spray at the massair? i just don't get it. the T.N.T kit puts it right into the th-body where it should be. my bud has the nx 100 shot to 100 shot my T.N.T out did his on the dyno and at the track. goodluck to ya.
MACON-your right,its all been done before.getting kinda old seeing the same shi* on this site.
MACON-your right,its all been done before.getting kinda old seeing the same shi* on this site.
Originally Posted by mike c.
why would anyone want to spray at the massair? i just don't get it. the T.N.T kit puts it right into the th-body where it should be. my bud has the nx 100 shot to 100 shot my T.N.T out did his on the dyno and at the track. goodluck to ya.
MACON-your right,its all been done before.getting kinda old seeing the same shi* on this site.
MACON-your right,its all been done before.getting kinda old seeing the same shi* on this site.
Niether of those spray AT the MAF. The NX MAF kit doesnt...the TNT doesnt. The NX just uses the MAF housing as a place to integrate the nozzles.
As far as a 100 shot TNT vs a 100 shot NX and one "outperforming" the other on the dyno or track?
Ill never understand the logic really.
If you spray a TNT thats labeled a 100 shot and get 130 rwhp...then what shot where you spraying again????
If you spay an NOS kit that calls it a 100 shot and you get 75 rwhp to the tires...what size shot is that?
Does your motor care what the shot was labeled?
If a motor will hande exactly 600 rwhp and 700 rwtq before it pops and you make 400 on motor and spray a TNT "200" shot and get 250 from it (650 total) will the motor not pop because the jets were labeled a 200??
These are the questions Id like to know.
Both kits in question will get the job done and spray the full amount of whats considered "safe" down an intake. As a matter of fact most kits will. Pick the one you like, the one you feel has good customer support, and the one you generally get that warm fuzzy feeling about
Last edited by 383LQ4SS; Dec 10, 2005 at 10:43 PM.
Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
Niether of those spray AT the MAF. The NX MAF kit doesnt...the TNT doesnt. The NX just uses the MAF housing as a place to integrate the nozzles.
As far as a 100 shot TNT vs a 100 shot NX and one "outperforming" the other on the dyno or track?
Ill never understand the logic really.
If you spray a TNT thats labeled a 100 shot and get 130 rwhp...then what shot where you spraying again????
If you spay an NOS kit that calls it a 100 shot and you get 75 rwhp to the tires...what size shot is that?
Does your motor care what the shot was labeled?
If a motor will hande exactly 600 rwhp and 700 rwtq before it pops and you make 400 on motor and spray a TNT "200" shot and get 250 from it (650 total) will the motor not pop because the jets were labeled a 200??
These are the questions Id like to know.
Both kits in question will get the job done and spray the full amount of whats considered "safe" down an intake. As a matter of fact most kits will. Pick the one you like, the one you feel has good customer support, and the one you generally get that warm fuzzy feeling about
As far as a 100 shot TNT vs a 100 shot NX and one "outperforming" the other on the dyno or track?
Ill never understand the logic really.
If you spray a TNT thats labeled a 100 shot and get 130 rwhp...then what shot where you spraying again????
If you spay an NOS kit that calls it a 100 shot and you get 75 rwhp to the tires...what size shot is that?
Does your motor care what the shot was labeled?
If a motor will hande exactly 600 rwhp and 700 rwtq before it pops and you make 400 on motor and spray a TNT "200" shot and get 250 from it (650 total) will the motor not pop because the jets were labeled a 200??
These are the questions Id like to know.
Both kits in question will get the job done and spray the full amount of whats considered "safe" down an intake. As a matter of fact most kits will. Pick the one you like, the one you feel has good customer support, and the one you generally get that warm fuzzy feeling about
Put a 100 hp shot next to a 100 hp shot and the driver will be the difference.
If it always sounds like I don't like TNT, you are misreading me. It's okay. I know people who swear by it. I've beaten them in races with my old Zex kit. Big deal...I had 150 shot they may have had 75, I don't know? I do like NX. I just like running nitrous. But I like to know what i'm running. PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT TNT MAKES MORE HP. It is labeled liberally It is incorrect to say. It is a lie in a certain context and misleads. If you want TNT buy it. But it sounds to me like you may be buying a 125 shot and simply getting a mislabeled 150 shot. I'll take NX quality any day. I know what i'm getting.
Last edited by Macon; Dec 10, 2005 at 11:44 PM.
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My tnt 100 shot kit made 125rwhp. Yes it made more power but that A/F was DEAD ON all the way across with a stock tune.
Car's dyno on spray looked like it was tuned, but it was not.
I am impressed.
Customer service with TNT is excellent also.
Car's dyno on spray looked like it was tuned, but it was not.
I am impressed.
Customer service with TNT is excellent also.
The only way the TNT is making more power
1-dumping more cfm of nitrous than the NX kit
2-NX kit runs too much fuel vs nitrous so it runs rich.
3-Atmoization of NX kit is horrible(which i highly doubt)
If A/F is identical and CFM of nitrous flow is identical, power should be also.
The word "shot" is just a reference to how much power you're making. There's no chart for "shot" vs flow or jetting size of nitrous.
If you're running "x" amount of nitrous on a honda, and it makes 40hp, then it's a 40shot. Move that same kit over to an LS1. If it make 75hp then it's a 75 shot.
The power gains should always be at the wheels. Flywheel horsepower is irrelevant. how many people put their stuff on an engine dyno? Horsepower is at the wheels.
1-dumping more cfm of nitrous than the NX kit
2-NX kit runs too much fuel vs nitrous so it runs rich.
3-Atmoization of NX kit is horrible(which i highly doubt)
If A/F is identical and CFM of nitrous flow is identical, power should be also.
The word "shot" is just a reference to how much power you're making. There's no chart for "shot" vs flow or jetting size of nitrous.
If you're running "x" amount of nitrous on a honda, and it makes 40hp, then it's a 40shot. Move that same kit over to an LS1. If it make 75hp then it's a 75 shot.
The power gains should always be at the wheels. Flywheel horsepower is irrelevant. how many people put their stuff on an engine dyno? Horsepower is at the wheels.
Ive owned the TNT F2 was a great kit...The kit came with quality pieces and the peformance was outstanding.... That being said I recently switched to the NX MAF kit for two reasons:
1. Lifetime solenoid warranty.
2. Ease and IMHO cleaner install than the power ring.
Both are better than an NOS kit in terms of quailty and customer service, IMHO.
1. Lifetime solenoid warranty.
2. Ease and IMHO cleaner install than the power ring.
Both are better than an NOS kit in terms of quailty and customer service, IMHO.
Ok, guys, if you take a NX kit and a TNT kit and jet them how the respective company does it to reach the same RWHP, the TNT kit will put out more torque by design. This is where nozzle design/location, bottle pressure and a/f ratio come into play. So, I contend, rwhp rating is only part of the story. Now what? Which will win more races?
Robert
Robert
