Bird-Of-Prey

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I am debating on which way to go and thought I might ask for some advice from you guys. I currently have most all of the bolt-ons (see sig) as well as a NOS 5177 kit spraying a 100 shot. I have decided that I'm going direct port and have started to put together a kit using some of my NOS kit but with cheater solenoids (2 fuel & 2 N2O) and Cold Fusion EFI nozzles. I still don't have a dyno tune yet so I don't know where I stand as far as HP goes but I want to shoot a 200 shot to the wheels. The system will have a dedicated fuel system as well as a progressive controller. I really don't want to have to upgrade my bottom end at this time and may or may not put some upgraded heads on it. This isn't a drag car, it's a semi-daily driver and I would like to be able to use my AC and cruise from time to time. I'm thinking that with a 200 shot I would be close to the limit with the bottom end. I would love to put a cam in it but if I did I would want it to be around the 400rwhp level with stock heads. Should I leave it as is and spray the **** out of it or put a cam in it and maybe only run 150-175 shot?

TNTramair

iTrader: (15)

hmmm...1 girl...or 2 girls at the same time??? what do you think...

no matter how much nitrous you run, with a cam you'll utilize everything a little better which in theory should give you more power safer...if that makes any sence...goodluck.

GM Muscle

iTrader: (9)

Well, your really putting togethor a good complete nitrous set up. I would go out and pick your cam and then have your progressive controller ramp up to a 200 shot. The progressive controller will help the motor and drivetrain last. You will have to have a safe tune though, esspecially to run it on the street. Doing it on 100% pump gas is do able but I don't think it would leave a whole lot of room for error, I would run race gas in the standalone. If your afraid to break parts I would back it down to a 150-175. Also keep in mind how high your spinning the motor on the bottle, the rod bolts are a weak link and something to keep in mind.

Bird-Of-Prey

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I'm thinking 2 girls definatley

Bird-Of-Prey

iTrader: (23)

I do plan on running race gas in the stand alone. I'm not really affraid of breaking parts, just don't want to go too far and break stuff when it could have been avoided. Any recommendation on a progressive that ramps by rpm vs. one that ramps by delay?

GM Muscle

iTrader: (9)

NX has a badass controller on the market. It's time based or rpm based and has a 1st gear lock out plus a bunch of other cool features.

Robert56

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Cams are always nice, but the dollar cost compared to spraying is high, concerning hp gains. I am doing the 200 on stock bottom end. I would progressively controll based on rpm. sounds like you have your bases covered with your kit. You couls always keep your 5177 dry as your whole shot and pull timing with it, then prog the DP, something to think about anyway.
Robert

Somebody09

I voted for cam & 200 only because you didn't have another option, like cam & 250+ That's the route I'm going, but I'll probably need heads to get to 400 rwhp N/A with this cam (GT2-3).

-somebody

ws6sojuiced01

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I had to say no cam more spray cause that is what im doing. like roberts im going 200 with progressive(HSW) Not going to be as fast at all but id like to see what i can do with the stock bottom.

jimmyblue

iTrader: (11)

What happened to "more cam and spray the **** out of it"?

TNMuscle

my vote is go with a big *** cam, then put on a 100-150 shot of spray

227Hawk

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CAM+200!!!!
Hawk

NXJeremy

I would go with the cam+200 only because there wasn't a better option like cam/heads/200 or cam/250 etc... I agree with Robert though, a cam won't be as good dollar per hp as just spraying more to it. However, getting a good nitrous cam will help when using the nitrous.

99SSLS1

iTrader: (5)

400???????? I think you'll be in the 500 range.

BadAssFast

iTrader: (2)

Yes sir!! Okay ... maybe not huge big *** but semi big big *** like a 230/230 .595/.595 114 and a 150 wet...but with the cam you need to consider heads and intake...the straight juice is easier...and driveability and cam size need to be considered too. Either way remember protection is a challenge in a group.

Hocky

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My setup for next season is full boltons, TRex, and a progressive 200 shot. We'll see how long it lasts. On just long tubes and a 150 shot, it put down 490whp and 510ftlbs.

LS1SpeedAddict

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It won't sound as good having the extra juice and no cam

Bird-Of-Prey

iTrader: (23)

Thanks for all the help guys. I appreciate all of your opinions. I pretty much already know what I'm going to do, just wanted some input from everyone and what they thought. I'm definatley going with a cam and a 200 shot. It will have a 1 gallon dedicated low pressure fuel system using race gas and progressive controller that is ramped by rpm instead of time. A good set of heads are definatley in the future just might be awhile. I just need to decide on a progressive controller and the right cam. Right now I'm leaning towards an FJO controller and a G5X2 cam on a 114LSA.

227Hawk

iTrader: (1)

G5X2 that's alot of cam. But once rev'd up it'll put some numbers down. You can probably get by with less cam on the spray. My.02 is lower the powerband and use the
spray to compliment the cam. That's alot of cam to tune N/A and back w/ spray.
Hawk

Zeus

while we're on the subject of big cam + N20 I have a question for you guys. I have a 243/250 .611" 109LSA cam in my car right now and to tell you the truth I haven't hit the spray since putting the cam in for fear of breakage.

What's the relative safety of running a big cam + n20 on an SI LS1? I know there are no absolutes, but assuming the nitrous was used 1-3 times a month, would the engine and drivetrain last fairly long or is it just a matter of time?