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Originally Posted by ALBERT@COLD FUSION
This is not a post for: Lets slam each other.
If you want to do your own testing feel free to order a nozzle and compare the results.
Will these take the standard NX jets or do they have to be bored out to take them??
Nevermind just ordered mine, I guess I will guinnea pig it. Good idea making them to accect different style jets for people changing over.
How much Hp will these put out??
Nevermind just ordered mine, I guess I will guinnea pig it. Good idea making them to accect different style jets for people changing over.
How much Hp will these put out??
Last edited by 95ttoplt1; Feb 18, 2006 at 01:01 PM.
We have sets for both nx style jets and nos/CFN style jets you just have to tell us which style you want when ordering. Thanks for the order! Yeah Cold Fusion wanted to accomodate everyone on these bad boys! 
For all others interested they are available now via phone order or on the website in the nozzle section Predator Nozzles

For all others interested they are available now via phone order or on the website in the nozzle section Predator Nozzles
Did anyone think to ask about the AFR between the two nozzles? I keep hearing the same thing over and over. My nozzle works better than there nozzle. If you tune your nitrous system for the correct AFR it will make as much power as anyone elses system tuned properly. It takes X amount of nitrous and X amount of fuel to make X HP at the correct AFR.
I would alos like to know your flow rates for nitrous and fuel at the end of the nozzle for both systems.
Allmost all off the shelf systems run rich for saftey reasons. If one tunes one system correctly and the other not then the tuned system should outperform the other.
I would alos like to know your flow rates for nitrous and fuel at the end of the nozzle for both systems.
Allmost all off the shelf systems run rich for saftey reasons. If one tunes one system correctly and the other not then the tuned system should outperform the other.
Originally Posted by oldie
Did anyone think to ask about the AFR between the two nozzles?
Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
When you get a chance can you post up the graphs with the airfuel.
We are missing some needed information.
Dave
We are missing some needed information.
Dave
Originally Posted by frknlo
I too am interested in this. Was the afr the same, for the different nozzles?
Man, internet has been down since thursday (artic storm, but was good at track for new bests for many), and I missed the intro on the wonderfully powerfull 90* annular discharge nozzle. This is what I have been talking about, and one of the reasons I hooked up with Nitrous Direct/Cold Fusion: innovative products, and more to come. I knew about this bad boy for some time, hehehe, we just might see a dual stage wet for the ole Z06.
[QUOTE](oldie) If you tune your nitrous system for the correct AFR it will make as much power as anyone elses system tuned properly. It takes X amount of nitrous and X amount of fuel to make X HP at the correct AFR.
QUOTE]
Well, partially true. If compared systems had exactly the same flow restriction, maybe that would be close. Two things that I have gleened from this so far. One is, the large and multiple orfice sizes, in a 90*annular discharge, very unique. Two things happen, better atomization of fuel, which equals more power sooner, and I suspect is maintained to redline.
If what you state was true, no need for any upgrading nozzles, might as well use ones from the seventys. Not busting your *****, just stating what i see so far. Remember, It was stated, same jets, same kit, same car and one nozzle design out performed the others, this is not hard to understand, as I have watched better nozzles hit the market every so often over the last 25/30 years.
Robert
[QUOTE](oldie) If you tune your nitrous system for the correct AFR it will make as much power as anyone elses system tuned properly. It takes X amount of nitrous and X amount of fuel to make X HP at the correct AFR.
QUOTE]
Well, partially true. If compared systems had exactly the same flow restriction, maybe that would be close. Two things that I have gleened from this so far. One is, the large and multiple orfice sizes, in a 90*annular discharge, very unique. Two things happen, better atomization of fuel, which equals more power sooner, and I suspect is maintained to redline.
If what you state was true, no need for any upgrading nozzles, might as well use ones from the seventys. Not busting your *****, just stating what i see so far. Remember, It was stated, same jets, same kit, same car and one nozzle design out performed the others, this is not hard to understand, as I have watched better nozzles hit the market every so often over the last 25/30 years.
Robert
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[QUOTE=Robert56]Man, internet has been down since thursday (artic storm, but was good at track for new bests for many), and I missed the intro on the wonderfully powerfull 90* annular discharge nozzle. This is what I have been talking about, and one of the reasons I hooked up with Nitrous Direct/Cold Fusion: innovative products, and more to come. I knew about this bad boy for some time, hehehe, we just might see a dual stage wet for the ole Z06.
any setups planed for a fast 90
(oldie) If you tune your nitrous system for the correct AFR it will make as much power as anyone elses system tuned properly. It takes X amount of nitrous and X amount of fuel to make X HP at the correct AFR.
QUOTE]
Well, partially true. If compared systems had exactly the same flow restriction, maybe that would be close. Two things that I have gleened from this so far. One is, the large and multiple orfice sizes, in a 90*annular discharge, very unique. Two things happen, better atomization of fuel, which equals more power sooner, and I suspect is maintained to redline.
If what you state was true, no need for any upgrading nozzles, might as well use ones from the seventys. Not busting your *****, just stating what i see so far. Remember, It was stated, same jets, same kit, same car and one nozzle design out performed the others, this is not hard to understand, as I have watched better nozzles hit the market every so often over the last 25/30 years.
Robert
QUOTE]
Well, partially true. If compared systems had exactly the same flow restriction, maybe that would be close. Two things that I have gleened from this so far. One is, the large and multiple orfice sizes, in a 90*annular discharge, very unique. Two things happen, better atomization of fuel, which equals more power sooner, and I suspect is maintained to redline.
If what you state was true, no need for any upgrading nozzles, might as well use ones from the seventys. Not busting your *****, just stating what i see so far. Remember, It was stated, same jets, same kit, same car and one nozzle design out performed the others, this is not hard to understand, as I have watched better nozzles hit the market every so often over the last 25/30 years.
Robert
[QUOTE=Noyzee] You want a direct port set-up right? if so, we already have straight shooter annular nozzles that can be plumbed for a dual stage DP. Or we could do the PRO Wet kit with the new 90* annulars, a very potent combo using quad pro 400hp noids.
Robert
Originally Posted by Robert56
Man, internet has been down since thursday (artic storm, but was good at track for new bests for many), and I missed the intro on the wonderfully powerfull 90* annular discharge nozzle. This is what I have been talking about, and one of the reasons I hooked up with Nitrous Direct/Cold Fusion: innovative products, and more to come. I knew about this bad boy for some time, hehehe, we just might see a dual stage wet for the ole Z06.
any setups planed for a fast 90
any setups planed for a fast 90

Robert
Well, Ricky, there is probably a slight a/f variation, however, if the the jets were changed to make the exact same a/f for each test, then the other camp would be doubting because the jets were changed. trying to keep everything the same was more important for an overall equal evaluation, imo. I feel that no intended missleading is going on from any angle or point. the fact is, this nozzle works, and just like the shark was a leader for years (right?), this proves that nozzle design does in fact evolve. I hope you don't get my nozzle.
Robert
Robert
Ricky. I htink if all nozzles were created equal, then using all the same stuff and jets would in fact produce the same a/f, but they are not the same. i think showing the ultimate compared a/f will show also how well this nozzle performs. Another enhancing angle.
This is just speculation on my part, but the NX nozzle and the "venturi effect" style jet was prob chose as a disarming factor considering using a NX based kit. Now to say that anothers nozzle makes more power in an otherwise NX kit, could lead to skepticism, I understand this.
Robert
This is just speculation on my part, but the NX nozzle and the "venturi effect" style jet was prob chose as a disarming factor considering using a NX based kit. Now to say that anothers nozzle makes more power in an otherwise NX kit, could lead to skepticism, I understand this.
Robert


