I would love to put a DP on my car but nobody wants to give me one to test out to see if it will be faster than my lil dry kit

 

Bump for dyno charts??? I already bought one just curious. I am going to run my shark nozzle and then switch to the predator track side, if it goes faster and the AFR looks good I think it was money well spent and really could give 2 craps as to why.

 

wouldnt if you tune the car to one air/fuel ratio for a certain nozzle and then you put a different nozzle in there that may be more/less efficient then that could either lean or richen the mixture thus making more/less power at different rpms. please correct me if im wrong.

 

exactly what i was thinking

 

[QUOTE=Robert56]easy, easy.

 

Question: Why is there people who represent NX or Nitrous Outlet replying in this thread? How come Nitrous Direct can keep their end of the agreement, but it seems the other camp cannot? Did we not say you guys shouldn't ever reply in eachother's threads? How come this is so hard to understand?

 

A/F ratio did not change

 

[QUOTE=Noyzee]Oh sorry, you asked about a 90mm intake, and atv was talking DP.
Robert

 

[QUOTE=Robert56] you will have to talk to scott

 

This makes sense to me. A fixed mech jet, a certain amount of n2o and fuel, period, just how a nozzle handles it. With better atomization, you'll see a more even and better distribution of your mix, and this equals more power and better Volumetric efficiancy.
Robert

 

the faxed copies of the dyno results look really unreadable after they are scanned in. Im going to try and get an original asap.

 

The jets are obviously are THE restriction in the system, NOT the nossle. Once the fuel/nitrous gets past the jets, it's free to do whatever it wants. The same amount of nitrous and fuel should exit the nossle, just spray pattern should differ.

The only logical reason the a/f would differ would be if the nossle itself was a bigger restriction than whatever jet was in it.

 

[QUOTE=Noyzee]I have.
Robert

 

so you tuned the cars to the proper air/fuel mixture with each nozzle?

 

[QUOTE=Robert56] good deal

 

Wait a minute, everyone has been very respectfull here.
You can't really say that this is a pure CF or ND thread since the opening post claims that a Colf fusion part works better than a NX part. If the origional post is discussing NX nozzles, then why wouldn't the company that makes the NX nozzle (i.e NX) be able to post in this thread

I am very familiar with the arguing in this section in the past, but I don't see a problem with this thread.
Thats my opinion.
Vinny

 

I actually agree. A good tech debate is all I have seen. There will allways be skeptics, however, this is just an opportunity to put out more tech info, imo. If you have the goods and can back it up, no problemo. I say, bring it on.
Robert

 

I agree that if one company makes claims of thier product VS another that other manufacturer should be able to professionaly critique the results. I just think we will have to see the results and discuss it to see if it PROVES anything. My opinion is that it will leave a little to be desired in actual testing criteria. I will wait and see. AT the bare minumim CF has released what Im sure will be an excellent and useful nozzle for many. Whether it will be anything significantly better in design will have to be proven to a high standard with the claims made. And with use over time as cutomers get them.
So until the test criteria is posted...I dont think there is much of a need for discussion.

I am glad everyone has been level headed even though other manufacturers where mentioned. Thanks guys!

 

Here is the problem with this type of thread.

1. History has proven that it NEVER stays "professional" for long.
2. We asked that neither camp post in threads about the other company.
3. Scott sends me emails complaining about Dave & Co replying in his threads.
4. Dave sends me emails pissed off about things Scott does.

I also agree that Scott should not have mentioned other brand names in this press release. He should have said something like "Other Leading Brands" without specifying brand names. He claims that this is exactly what Cold Fusion sent him, but we do not have the agreement with Cold Fusion and he should have filtered the content himself since he is responsible for posting it.

Personally, I wish everyone in here would just grow up a little and quit this childish bickering and crap. Its really a shame that the authorities on nitrous products choose to sling mud at eachother and start crap, then drag me into the middle of it.

How about I just let you guys do what the hell you want, and you leave me out of it from now on? NO more emails complaining or griping. You guys can be the drama queens you want, and go rounds if you want. At the end of the battle, just ask yourself if the drama is worth your reputation here. Remember that members here read these mud-sling fests and will generally pick sides...

 

It was simply a product release geared toward nitrous consumers. No vendor nor manufacturer really had any business here even with fake filtered questions aimed at debunking a products claims. NEWS FLASH people see right through that.

I have stayed out of any thread not pertaining to us our the products we sell, it's too bad others can't extend that professional courtesy. I could debunk every single special or post about yopur products and offers, but I don't. I don't need to resort to that.

Again I ask that you all grow up, and spend your time focused on your companies and make your products better. I appreciate the interest in ours, but unless you're a customer or potential customer, or a nitrous product user who needs tech advice there's really no point, other than trying to stir the pot. Again I have stayed out of other's threads, if you continmue doing what you're doing i'd be happy to take up your tactics, the forum will become a chilidsh war zone and the forum users will lose out because of the bs. Again.. it's not very hard.. you have a head on your shoulders, it controls what actions your fingers take on the keyboard, try using it.

Thanks. Score one for nx and dave again, not following rules or being ethical.

Thanks to all who have inquired about the new nozzles, yes they do kick BUT! AND thanks for your orders can't wait to see your feedback!