I PMd you Mr. Cold Fusion/HiFonics/whatever else you use Hawk.

 

Sent one back>>>>>>>>> POT STIRRER.
Hawk

 

I don't see why its so hard to get the melon around the fact that a better atomization will make better power. If you are spraying a single nozzle you will have distrubution issues to some extent ALL the time, so you will have half the motor running perfect and the other half either running leaner or richer. If you have better atomization (which will result in better distribution) then you will have more cylinders running closer to the maximum power producing airfuel ratio. The dyno charts probably will show the same AFR but I would theorize that if test equipment was set up to montior individual cylinder AFR that the gains in power would evidenced there. Just my .02, but I think I am the only one left discussing the real topic of the thread anymore.

 

Very good, that's what Volumetric efficiancy is all about. A gas engine is just an air pump, the more efficiant it is, the more air it can pump and more hp it can make. If all clyinders are the same, then you will in fact have a stronger motor. well said 95ttoplt1.
Robert

 

Well, now your banned for two weeks.
Robert


















































Not really.

 

So if one nozzle has 96% atomization and another has 98% what kind of HP gain would you expect to see on the better artomizing nozzle? The differences are probably negligable and easily masked buy things like better flowing lines, intake design, tune, exhaust, and a million other things that can add up to much larger differences.

as far as the distribution problem...thats a nozzle placement issue...not atomization. If the nozzle someone is using is so bad that streams of fule are shooting out...that its causing distribution issues...you have serious issues and I would venture to say that company would not be around long. I have yet to see a nozzle that bad. There may have been some at one time years ago...but I havent seen them.

If you have bad distibution with 95% atomization you will have bad distibution with a nozzle thats 98% atomized fuel.

You guys are acting like the other nozzles on the market spray out liquid fuel or something and do a bad job at atomization.

 

Al, how would you know if a nozzle has a certain % atomization? I think a change of only a nozzle, and no other stuff, and an increase in hp would indicate better atomization. Unless, original nozzle was a restriction. Now if something else were changed, yes then test could be as you said ie: lines, tune, exhaust etc.
Robert

 

% of atomization only in theory.

 

383 this isn't your thread man.. go start your own bud.. make up %'s there. Thanks!

 

dont be so thin skinned...or afraid of a little tech discussion. If your claims are verified I will be the first to say good job no matter what. I am eagerly awaiting the test results and criteria.

 

Please post the dyno graphs.

 

thin skinned haha dude you know nothing about me. I laugh at 90% of your posts. Like i said if u want drama games, and nonsense to make up complete crap, do it somewhere else. This was a product release thread not for you do dave's dirty work for him.

 

10pages and no dyno graph to back up anything stated. I want to believe and purchase the product if what you say is true. I also noted in the first page that you said they out performed the TNT nozzle. Did you do a direct test on this or not???

 

No where in my posts did I get off the subject of tech or serious discussion about the claims you made. If you care to refute what I propose by all means go right ahead. I do not get offended with differences of opinion that go against mine.

I do however take your childish remarks such as "I laugh at 90% of your posts" as an insult. And thats not called for.


If you make claims such as you have you need to be prepared to be scrutinzed to some degree. Many will have questions. It is fair to ask them.

 

ya mang.curious to see the graph.lets see it.

 

Scott,
Please do not imply that I use shady tactics and need someone else to do my dirty work. That is not my style. I will leave that to you guys.
Thanks
Dave

 

whos dyno was used? was it nitrous directs dyno? i dont see how it takes 3-4 days to come up with a dyno graph and just prove weither the claims are right or wrong. thats the easiest way to shut people up.

 

Thanks for all the orders so far guys! Please post your feedback as soon as you have it, we're sure you'll love the nozzle! And thanks for any current feedback that's been left! vortec350 get your but to the track! Gotta love all the haters, I guess that always happens with any new killer products or when you're around people who resort to poor business tactics. Regardless it's attention, good or bad, you're not accomplishing what you think you are dave, calling in favors and posts etc. Doesn't bother me one bit! It's a killer nozzle and anyone can buy one, even you! The funny thing is you guys spent so much time trying to convince people your nozzles were better and that nothing could touch it and nozzles were soime important and again you've become hypcrits and are sitting here trying to say the exact opposite. Bottom line, I and alot of people could care less what you say or what tactics you pull. The daily phone calls and orders laughing at those tactics make me smile. You really need to focus on your products and company, not ours. We're not concerned with you or your company at all! LOL Infact I've reffered people to you whether you know it or not for things like standalone fuel which we haven't finalized yet over here. Most of this amuses me.
SO! you have a great day, go sell some stuff, and focus on YOU and your business, thanks!!!

 

I am starting to agree with the moderator oon this subject. You 2 can't seem to leave one another alone or you(Nitrous Direct) takes every post on here as someone for Dave. You certainly have time to put up stuff like your last post, yet haven't answered the question of when you are gunna get up a dyno graph and continuously avoid that comment. I clearly stated I would be interested, but since my post are of no interest to you then I will keep my money in my pocket. Congrats on the business you have recieved and are gloating about. I'd be concerned about the customers like me who are on the fence. Maybe you might want to read my last post and this one and give a reply instead of ripping at Nitro Dave.You 2 need to grow up and take care of your businesses.

 

Well Mr you're not aware of the things I am, the emails, pms and phone calsl i get about his daily comments, tactics, plans, and even direct phone conversations that have been relayed to me. Inclusing requests to post on our threads Shady is putting it nicely. Regrdless.. i don't hate anyone i wish them the best of luck, and even send them business from time to time. I find it sad that a someone can not post a product release without them getting their panties in a bunch. You'll also be hard pressed to find posts where we do and resort to what he does.

Not gloating but stating the facts we've gotten great feedback and interest from people who really know nitrous and appreciate the design of this nozzle.

As for the dyno sheets if you had read instead of taking jabs at us on it, Cold Fusion will be supplying it, Albert posted the reason why. Thanks!

Regardless this was a product release not a let's ruin their thread, and see what we can do and be crafty about it. Doesn't matter there will be many other threrads and lots of killer feedback from customers... You can try as you may you ruin threads, doesn't bother us at all.