nozzle shootout results
Staging Lane
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Tomball, Texas
Thanks
Originally Posted by mrr23
you like that, don't cha??? did it just for you. guys, i appreciate the thanks being handed out. i'd like to thank the sponsors that actually donated parts for the testing. without them, it would've taken longer to get this done and not have had as many to compare. i'll work some more tonight on the webpage and graphs. what i'll do is put a column with average a/f ratio. it was late and i didn't have the graphs in front of me at the time. so, i didn't want to put the wrong info up.
one nozzle that surprised me was the dynotune nozzle. it was right up there with the SHO and TNT. for a tiny nozzle, it put up a good fight. as far as the predator goes, well, maybe it's just my car. who knows. they are supposed to have another test performed shortly.
one nozzle that surprised me was the dynotune nozzle. it was right up there with the SHO and TNT. for a tiny nozzle, it put up a good fight. as far as the predator goes, well, maybe it's just my car. who knows. they are supposed to have another test performed shortly.
Thanks for all the hard work. One HUGE factor that I see that makes me scratch my head is the Dyno-tune nozzle is our standard nozzle that is in all of our kits. I'm saying "exact" same because they get them from one of our larger dealers that we supply!!! That being said, we know exactly how it performs against the Predator and it does not keep up. So, either the Dyno has a +/- factor of greater than X or something else was causing the odd results. Either way the best test is at the track. So pill it to kill it!!!
[/QUOTE] I'm saying "exact" same because they get them from one of our larger dealers that we supply!!! [/QUOTE]
So.... your saying that Cold Fusion produces the dynotune nozzle???????
So.... your saying that Cold Fusion produces the dynotune nozzle???????
Staging Lane
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Tomball, Texas
I'm saying "exact" same because they get them from one of our larger dealers that we supply!!! [/QUOTE]
So.... Cold Fusion produces the dynotune nozzle???????[/QUOTE]
YES. However, we do not know if they port or do modifications to it once they receive it. As i stated earlier they buy from a supplier that we supply. look at the picture it even has the brass nozzle fittings and we are the only company that makes those in brass without plating!!!! The nozzle is more like the NOS pro race nozzle than the vortec. the vortec is a bit different but same shape.
So.... Cold Fusion produces the dynotune nozzle???????[/QUOTE]
YES. However, we do not know if they port or do modifications to it once they receive it. As i stated earlier they buy from a supplier that we supply. look at the picture it even has the brass nozzle fittings and we are the only company that makes those in brass without plating!!!! The nozzle is more like the NOS pro race nozzle than the vortec. the vortec is a bit different but same shape.
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
Originally Posted by ALBERT@COLD FUSION
now that was funny!!!
give me a brake, go to the track test them out, buy a kit because you want it, because you like it, or because of a test done in one of the biggest bs forums around
by a kit that works for you and go for it.
the test is great, but to me, alot of waisted time that didnt prove a point.
prove a point, and make the af exact on every run, ect ect. then maybe, but like stated befor, heat soak, bla bla bla then comes into effect.
oh well.
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I really dont think the minute differences are worthy of putting under a microscope at this point. I really wanted to see one nozzle STAND OUT. If you have to enlarge the graph to see differences and try to squeeze out a little leaner tune to make an extra 3-5 hp over another nozzle...then to me that doesnt show any clear winner.
What this really shows me...bottom line...its all about the flow capabilties of the entire kit. Nitrous flow = hp. Nitrous flow is MUCH more a factor in total HP than nozzle design.
For you guys to show that one nozzle has some type of advantage over another...your REALLY going to have to tighten the resolution on the testing. So much so that agin...I would say the differences are negligable.
To me manufacturer claims of overall nozzle superiority at medium HP levels are dead. I might focus on testing the limits of HP and consistency of tune at the very high flow rates and component quality.
Sorry to beat a dead horse but I do feel somewhat vindicated for the post I made a few months ago.
Here is a link to that post.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/456725-discussion-nitrous-nozzle-design-important.html
The initial idea was:
I am doing a small bit if chest beating here.....I was challenged by most in that thread. 
ok..headed to the track to spray a 225 on the stock shortblock and shoot for deep 9s.
What this really shows me...bottom line...its all about the flow capabilties of the entire kit. Nitrous flow = hp. Nitrous flow is MUCH more a factor in total HP than nozzle design.
For you guys to show that one nozzle has some type of advantage over another...your REALLY going to have to tighten the resolution on the testing. So much so that agin...I would say the differences are negligable.
To me manufacturer claims of overall nozzle superiority at medium HP levels are dead. I might focus on testing the limits of HP and consistency of tune at the very high flow rates and component quality.
Sorry to beat a dead horse but I do feel somewhat vindicated for the post I made a few months ago.
Here is a link to that post.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/456725-discussion-nitrous-nozzle-design-important.html
The initial idea was:
I personally think all nozzles that are halfway decently built will perform just fine. Be it NX, TNT, NOS, HSW, NW, or CF or other. I think they will all perform within 1% of each other if the parameter of nitrous flow, fuel flow, ratio of that flow, bottle pressure etc are maintained.
I say that because I have yet to see any REAL evidence to the contrary. No one has done a test and posted proof that was not "tainted" in some way. The testing was always stopped short.
I say that because I have yet to see any REAL evidence to the contrary. No one has done a test and posted proof that was not "tainted" in some way. The testing was always stopped short.
ok..headed to the track to spray a 225 on the stock shortblock and shoot for deep 9s.
Originally Posted by NXRICKY
Well maybe not missing but forgot to chip in.
Originally Posted by ALBERT@COLD FUSION
where do we send money?
Originally Posted by Noyzee
top HP should be next, same jetting on the spray side, but adjust the fuel side to get say a 13-1 af and see who makes the most at the same air fuel.
Originally Posted by nick@hsw
I am just trying to spark some conversation on what people are looking at in these graphs and maybe trying to learn why one nozzle is highlighted in red?
one thing to be learned here if anything is to wideband tune the nitrous. once i put the a/f ratios up, you'll notice how far in variance the readings are. granted none really got into a danger zone, IMO. but, some were in the 13:1 range, some were in the 12:1 range.
FormerVendor
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Wichita Falls,Tx
Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
What this really shows me...bottom line...its all about the flow capabilties of the entire kit. Nitrous flow = hp. Nitrous flow is MUCH more a factor in total HP than nozzle design.
Noyzee....wake up in a bad mood today, or just letting **** get under the skin? (reference the bs forum comment, ouch).
Al, you sir, have been declared vindicated! I just wanted to see any one of them jump far beyond all others, so I could WOW or something in reply. And or see an old *** nozzle that wouldnt be able to flow for its life so all the newer nozzles look awesome
Good thing, I can picture the results in my head.
I guess I will continue to piece meal my nitrous stuff as I see fit, or find sales.
Al, you sir, have been declared vindicated! I just wanted to see any one of them jump far beyond all others, so I could WOW or something in reply. And or see an old *** nozzle that wouldnt be able to flow for its life so all the newer nozzles look awesome
Good thing, I can picture the results in my head. I guess I will continue to piece meal my nitrous stuff as I see fit, or find sales.