where to spray dry shot with fipk?
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thats nice. but i dont have my nozzle T'd off like that. i have only one. but i think i might be able to work it out. should i spray across the filter or right up into the MAF?
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Originally Posted by Function>Form
thats nice. but i dont have my nozzle T'd off like that. i have only one. but i think i might be able to work it out. should i spray across the filter or right up into the MAF?
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i personally would not descreen the maf. that little bit of mess is all thats inbetween your motor and crap coming at it. any time i change a filter i find crap covering the screen. its your call, but i vote no.
a somewhat stealthy idea for the fipk is to drill a hole in the bottom of the filter and heat shield and point the nozzle toward the maf, like this...
a somewhat stealthy idea for the fipk is to drill a hole in the bottom of the filter and heat shield and point the nozzle toward the maf, like this...
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
i personally would not descreen the maf. that little bit of mess is all thats inbetween your motor and crap coming at it. any time i change a filter i find crap covering the screen. its your call, but i vote no.
a somewhat stealthy idea for the fipk is to drill a hole in the bottom of the filter and heat shield and point the nozzle toward the maf, like this...
![](http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7411/untitledsf0.png)
a somewhat stealthy idea for the fipk is to drill a hole in the bottom of the filter and heat shield and point the nozzle toward the maf, like this...
![](http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7411/untitledsf0.png)
Putting the nozzle in the bottom normally results in a lean a/f ratio; because by time the n2o reaches the MAF wires it has been diluted by the incoming air and a warmer temp will be had; then the injector pulse width isn't increased enough. However, you can work around it if you want to mess around a little more with your comp tune.
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
The MAF is there for straighting the air, mostly for trucks that use the 90* elbows (turbulence), so we don't need it on a straight air path. On a dry what happens, the nitrous being so cold causes condensation to build up on the screen and you get flow restriction and poor readings. Standard to de screen with a dry shot.
Putting the nozzle in the bottom normally results in a lean a/f ratio; because by time the n2o reaches the MAF wires it has been diluted by the incoming air and a warmer temp will be had; then the injector pulse width isn't increased enough. However, you can work around it if you want to mess around a little more with your comp tune.
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Putting the nozzle in the bottom normally results in a lean a/f ratio; because by time the n2o reaches the MAF wires it has been diluted by the incoming air and a warmer temp will be had; then the injector pulse width isn't increased enough. However, you can work around it if you want to mess around a little more with your comp tune.
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
how did you set up your dry shot? Obviously you have more experience, and i will be getting a dry shot with this setup for xmas or late summer ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
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Oh yea, for the second poster, far away from MAF equals leaner, closer to MAF equals richer.
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If it will fit I bet one of our small nitrous discharge rings would work awesome with the airfilter.
Here is a post by a guy stating the differences he seen just by swaping out the nozzle to our discharge ring.
http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...d.php?t=383506
Here is a post by a guy stating the differences he seen just by swaping out the nozzle to our discharge ring.
http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...d.php?t=383506
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What's nice about Todds set-up is the fact that you can tune a/f with out altering your PE multiplier which effects n/a a/f ratio. Just rotate one nozzle a bit and dial in your prefered a/f. That's what is nice about nozzle tuning, each time you up your shot re doing a/f is a breeze. That is the whole premis of doing the dry correctly and getting the right inj pulse width, then your not playing with the n/a tune, just injector duty cycle which only comes into play while spraying.
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
What's nice about Todds set-up is the fact that you can tune a/f with out altering your PE multiplier which effects n/a a/f ratio. Just rotate one nozzle a bit and dial in your prefered a/f. That's what is nice about nozzle tuning, each time you up your shot re doing a/f is a breeze. That is the whole premis of doing the dry correctly and getting the right inj pulse width, then your not playing with the n/a tune, just injector duty cycle which only comes into play while spraying.
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
can you do that with a single nozzle? like instead of spraying it straight at the maf maybe 30* to the left or right
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
You can do a single like todds, start with aiming directly at MAF, if a/f is to rich then just rotate slightly and some of the spray will by pass wire and not be read, and thus a leaner a/f. that's why it's bets to start closer, then you can nozzle tune, but far away, then computer is the only answer if running to lean.
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
good to know, trying to sift through a 10 page long thread for one key point is a pain...thanks for the info ![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
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Ok, again here is mt set-up. My nozzles are about 3 inches from the MAF. One is a straight shooter and one is a 90* aimed at the maf wire. This allows a 11.5 avaerage a/f on 1st stage. The other two nozzles are straight shooters for 2nd stage. All straight shooters go to center of box. This is the benifit of using dual 90* nozzles, you can aim one away if your to rich.
Also, in that thread is a dyno comparison of straight shooters vs 1 straight and 1 *90 nozzle, it shows how the difference in how the torque comes on, one is slow and smooth, and one is fast and hard.
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