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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Since we are the company that put all the hard work and design time into creating a LS1 perimeter style plate with Oring gasket seal that some are building knock offs around ill share my point of view.

We actually designed a 360 degree discharge during the design and R&D process of building our plates. There was absulutley no bennifit to adding anymore discharge ports than our plates currently offer. However it does add a ohh factor in the fact it creates a cool looking circular pattern. But who really is going to see that with it on the car.

The down fall we seen was in order to offer the 360 degree pattern we would have to use a two piece design. The two piece design have a tendency to leak over time.

So instead we decided to build the plate with 6 fuel and 6 nitrous discharges to break it up the best way possible. We decided to make the plate one piece billit to illiminate any potential problems. Our plate can flow over 400 hp!!! We also offer them in a dual stage design!!!! Looks sexy and fits great!!!!

You Can not Beat it.. Our design is perfect!!!
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I would like to see the proof. show us some kind of evidence that a full 360*spray pattern has no added benefit over the "other" design. heck, show us your "secret" plate (just for ***** and giggles) that was never shown to the public therefore makin it impossible to be copied?!?! im curious.
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Ooohhhhh so now I get it...your reply was to post #13 on this thread. Man, wow, that's absolutely crazy. But wait...maybe I'm just seeing things but doesn't post #13 start with "How about the new HSW plate?"? Considering I just copy pasted that quote from lucky post #13 I'd say yes.

I never took a personal jab at you Dave. Everything I've jabbed at were concerning product and product design. I can easily get into personal issues about you, but you know what...I'm a man. The sad part is your personal jabs aren't even true. The rest of your post is just stupid so I'll respond with this.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....1&postcount=17
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....7&postcount=21
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....6&postcount=28
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....7&postcount=33
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....1&postcount=54



Again thanks for the chuckle.


Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
You guys seem to be overlooking the truth. Let me help you.
Post number 16 was a responce to post number 13.

It read.....

We actually designed a 360 degree discharge during the design and R&D process of building our plates. There was absulutley no bennifit to adding anymore discharge ports than our plates currently offer. However it does add a ohh factor in the fact it creates a cool looking circular pattern. But who really is going to see that with it on the car.

The down fall we seen was in order to offer the 360 degree pattern we would have to use a two piece design. The two piece design have a tendency to leak over time.

So instead we decided to build the plate with 6 fuel and 6 nitrous discharges to break it up the best way possible. We decided to make the plate one piece billit to illiminate any potential problems. Our plate can flow over 400 hp!!! We also offer them in a dual stage design!!!! Looks sexy and fits great!!!!



In that post I was talking about the research we did to determain if there was any gain other than the ohh factor of a 360 degree discharge versus the current design we eneded up with.

Not once did I ever Say anything about Harris.

Then Nick came in taking a personal jabs. I just gave him alittle one back and all hell broke loose.


For the Record.. Forget about the spray pattern. Who was the first company to realease a EFI plate with O-ring seal, more than one discharge, and could adapt solenoids to it..... Let me answer that for you. Nitrous Outlet. Thats right you cant argue that.

Who was the first company to build a dedicated fuel system that was self contained using a intank pump and return style regulater... Thats right Nitrous Outlet.

Who was the first company to start building and selling Custom Solenoid Brackets.. Thats right Nitrous Outlet...

I did not start this. I just simply came back with a jab for a jab.. It just so happen my jabs carried the truth..
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I made the first post here and all I asked was what the BEST plate I could give a **** less who made the 1st one....I made my choise and Im very happy with it
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ego Killer
I made the first post here and all I asked was what the BEST plate I could give a **** less who made the 1st one....I made my choise and Im very happy with it
this thread has been officially hijacked by HSW and dave.... please sit back and enjoy the show with the rest of us
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
this thread has been officially hijacked by HSW and dave.... please sit back and enjoy the show with the rest of us
Exactly!
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Its no secrete that I do not care for you. I do not care for your type. Your loyalty lies in the hand feeding you at the time. Its a shame to because your knowledge over the last two years has came along way. I do believe you are a good contributer to LS1tech. Its just that you have no loyalty and are easy pursuaded by material gains...
Your true nature finally comes out, I've suspected for some time that the PM's you've sent were to try to keep me off your back. However, your actions in this thread really are opening the eyes of most, some you've fooled for awhile, others you never fooled from the get go. One of them that was never fooled was I. My integrity stands unaffected, by you, or anyone else.

As for the loyality issue (another personal type slam as this is not true at all), what's up with that. No one is paying my salary, no one is sponsoring me, I have payed the bills for my projects 100% out of my own pocket. Furthermore, even when I was working for Scott, I said my piece good/bad/ugly. You like him, I have given every chance to be a stand up guy, but you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink.

Anyway, Dave the only problem I ever had with you was/is the "Greater Than Thow" attitude. Witch often carries over into personal attacks against anyone you feel threatened by. I give you the credit deserved for your dedication and knowledge to the Nitrous game: however, respect is a whole different matter. Quit being so petty and cheap shotting anyone who goes against you, in a percieved manner only by you, and respect will come from many more.

The truth sometimes hurts, yes it hurts a little that you said you never like me, when in reality I thought we were friends eventhough we had many disagreements. Anyway, I will get over it, and as usual hold nothing against anyone.

My opinion on the plates was/is explained by Matt in an earler post. I have never spoken to Matt in any way shape or form concerning the plate kit he offers. I truly believe that the 360 pattern offers a much better distribution as the internal pressures in the throttle body and plate area are equal per the 360* pattern. The other plates that spray a pattern from one side to the other, well just think about it, the air coming in will mix differently with different areas that are flowing less/more. meaning, like a nozzle, the spray pattern looses force as it travels from top to bottom or side to side. So you have unequal pressures at work. Once again, Matt explained it much better earler, but I came to the same conclusion on my own.

Maybe just maybe, i will change my wet 3rd stage, from nozzle style to plate style? Then again maybe not, as Dry is coming along so well, and a new product on it's way.

Are we having fun yet?

Robert
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Your true nature finally comes out, I've suspected for some time that the PM's you've sent were to try to keep me off your back. However, your actions in this thread really are opening the eyes of most, some you've fooled for awhile, others you never fooled from the get go. One of them that was never fooled was I. My integrity stands unaffected, by you, or anyone else.

As for the loyality issue (another personal type slam as this is not true at all), what's up with that. No one is paying my salary, no one is sponsoring me, I have payed the bills for my projects 100% out of my own pocket. Furthermore, even when I was working for Scott, I said my piece good/bad/ugly. You like him, I have given every chance to be a stand up guy, but you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink.

Anyway, Dave the only problem I ever had with you was/is the "Greater Than Thow" attitude. Witch often carries over into personal attacks against anyone you feel threatened by. I give you the credit deserved for your dedication and knowledge to the Nitrous game: however, respect is a whole different matter. Quit being so petty and cheap shotting anyone who goes against you, in a percieved manner only by you, and respect will come from many more.

The truth sometimes hurts, yes it hurts a little that you said you never like me, when in reality I thought we were friends eventhough we had many disagreements. Anyway, I will get over it, and as usual hold nothing against anyone.

My opinion on the plates was/is explained by Matt in an earler post. I have never spoken to Matt in any way shape or form concerning the plate kit he offers. I truly believe that the 360 pattern offers a much better distribution as the internal pressures in the throttle body and plate area are equal per the 360* pattern. The other plates that spray a pattern from one side to the other, well just think about it, the air coming in will mix differently with different areas that are flowing less/more. meaning, like a nozzle, the spray pattern looses force as it travels from top to bottom or side to side. So you have unequal pressures at work. Once again, Matt explained it much better earler, but I came to the same conclusion on my own.

Maybe just maybe, i will change my wet 3rd stage, from nozzle style to plate style? Then again maybe not, as Dry is coming along so well, and a new product on it's way.

Are we having fun yet?

Robert
Well said Robert... . its a shame that sometimes people resort to personal insults when they feel threatened. i would think with the foundation that Nitrous Outlet has set forth for it self it wouldnt need to get involved in those type of antics but you can see, people's true colors come through.
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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I have been thinking about the Dave plate for awhile. Not trying to be nosy, but I was checking out my NOS plate and it has a different angle drilled into it.

The NOS plate has a steep angle and looks like it would spray more into the back of the manifold. The dave plate looks like it has a shallow angle and would spray more towards the front.

I might just rig up my NOS plate in the open air and do the same thing you guys did in the video to confirm this.

Any reason why there might be a different angle?
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
I have been thinking about the Dave plate for awhile. Not trying to be nosy, but I was checking out my NOS plate and it has a different angle drilled into it.

The NOS plate has a steep angle and looks like it would spray more into the back of the manifold. The dave plate looks like it has a shallow angle and would spray more towards the front.

I might just rig up my NOS plate in the open air and do the same thing you guys did in the video to confirm this.

Any reason why there might be a different angle?
Reason for different angles, maybe someone copied someone else? Hey where did everyone go? Maybe NOS figured that going deep was likely to have a better chance at keeping the dreaded #7 from going lean. No one really can give a good engineered reason for the partial spray pattern plates? yes a challenge for...
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a little back on topic here..

Will either of the plate kits fit an LS2.. Say.. In a trailblazer SS?
Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Saladbar
a little back on topic here..

Will either of the plate kits fit an LS2.. Say.. In a trailblazer SS?
Whats up Shawn?

I think Dave has one for that.
Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Shepherd
Whats up Shawn?

I think Dave has one for that.
Not too much.. Just looking for a little "torque in a bottle", know what I mean?

Ever get that engine put back together? Mike's is still apart, waiting on heads.. Going on almost a year now. LOL.
Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Saladbar
Not too much.. Just looking for a little "torque in a bottle", know what I mean?

Ever get that engine put back together? Mike's is still apart, waiting on heads.. Going on almost a year now. LOL.

About to do the final dyno tuning with the spray. Heading to the track later this month.
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Keep this post on topic. call it a day, or i will make all sponsors send me free stuff and i will test it all, and not give it back when im done.

NUFF, back on topic
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Back on topic!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Tony Shepherd

Back on topic!!!!!!

hey, post *****
Old Jul 3, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Noyzee, send some of that stuff to the broke *** members of the board to test also.
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Originally Posted by Saladbar
a little back on topic here..

Will either of the plate kits fit an LS2.. Say.. In a trailblazer SS?
They will fit....but when you call to order one you will need to specify that it is for a TB SS so we know to relocate the fittings to the side.

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Shepherd
About to do the final dyno tuning with the spray. Heading to the track later this month.
Kickass! I actually talked to Mike today. Heads are going back on the motor this weekend. Should get some initial numbers out of it pretty soon as well .

So now there will be two more LT1's to reckon with




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