Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many?
06-11-2003, 11:50 AM
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Re: Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many? People call nitrous cheating because in the beginning when it was first used people hid the bottles and solenoids and people wouldnt know it was on the car , thats also the way the solenoids GAINED the title as "CHEATER" solenoids , its alot easier to conceal a bottle and solenoids , than a big blower or turbos LOL , but anyway im a "BIG" N20 user , i spray enough gas to choke the gods and i get hounded for it , but alot of the guys have made good points , N20 is just "COLD AIR" break it down anyway you want to but thats all it is , it achieves the same thing a blower or turbo does ... SUPPLY the motor with more AIR , the nitrogen is used as a carrier and cools the intake charge , so i guess you could say nitrous oxide is just a INTERCOOLED BLOWER IN A BOTTLE 
06-12-2003, 08:51 AM
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Re: Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many? LOL!! good point HPZ95MARO... this is starting to sound a N20AA class.
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"My name is Zturd and I'm a frequent N20 user and rice abuser"
06-12-2003, 09:21 AM
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Re: Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many? I race at a small track with the small town locals.There's like only three cars using the bottle at this track.When one of the NOS cars pulls up to the tree,there's a hush in the audience,it gets very quiet,everybody is waiting for the explosion.There's no talk of cheating by any means,the only talk is "WOW"with goose bumps going doen their back.
Most of the racers there would love to run the juice however,their motors aren't built for it.That's why i want to spray...i have an LS1,even though it's stock i still want to spray.If the motor can handle it,why not.
Most of the racers there would love to run the juice however,their motors aren't built for it.That's why i want to spray...i have an LS1,even though it's stock i still want to spray.If the motor can handle it,why not.
06-12-2003, 01:21 PM
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Re: Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many?
I figured where better then in here to ask this one. Its puzzling me somewhat. Everyone will go oh he was using nitrous thats how he won. Despite if the other was using a turbo or supercharger or big arsss hemi. I just don't understand why people consider it cheating or less of a power adder as in looked down upon for using? For example a guy with a Lexus 300 has a big single turbo on his car that makes 450RWHP. I ran him NA and he beat me by 1 car. I was like ok let me turn on my power adder. He and everyone was like no you will kill him and he should turn up the boost if you are gonna do that and he couldn't do that right now for some tuning reasons. Even some old school guys are like run big motors that nitrous stuff is for punks etc. I dont understand a mod is a mod is a mod. Then theres always the oh whatcha gonna do when your bottle runs out??? HUH! Some one help me understand this.
06-12-2003, 08:53 PM
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Re: Why is Nitrous considered cheating by so many? "run what you brung" now in these days you can't go out and play and bring home a "W" without the bottle. First of all is cheap, it's available, and used wisely you can spank allot of cars out there. Remmember if you don't use it somebody out there will and you will know it by reading his rear license plate's.
11-11-2004, 08:04 PM
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Nitrous is my best friend and we get along great I dont care call me a cheater especially when Im 5 out in front of you actually I guess Im a double cheater considering the stroker and the Nitrousbut no one needs to know that 
11-11-2004, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenVelvet
"In racing there are cheaters and losers"
11-11-2004, 10:41 PM
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I think the nitrous forum should be changed to "Sprayers Anonymous" My name is Chris and I put 4 bottles through my Lt1 in 3 weeks while working but I definetly don't have a problem 
11-12-2004, 01:44 AM
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Wow this thread is old....
But really, what difference does it make if its forced induction or nitrous oxide? Both methods are for one sole pupose,bringing more oxygen into the combustion chamber, nitrous just does it more effeciently and more cost effectively. I think the main reason everyone gets so sore about it is the fact that the nitrous equipped car that maybe had $1500 bucks in it and a weekends worth of work, just sucked the paint off there car that had ALOT more money and time invested. Nitrous really isn't dangerous as far as internal componants are concerned if you take the time to learn about it just like you would with forced induction...and you don't see that many idiots strap turbo's or s/c's to there cars without doing any research.
It all boils down to who's a sore loser and who's an honest racer...it doesn't matter to me, i always shake the hand of the competitor afterwards regardless of the outcome. My super pro car was setup with a 200 shot plate that i used for quick 16 matches, but besides that im still relatively new to N20. I use to have a shady outlook on the bottle, but ever since i used it and know how much time and money it can save and still produce an excellant outcome, im a deffinite believer.
But really, what difference does it make if its forced induction or nitrous oxide? Both methods are for one sole pupose,bringing more oxygen into the combustion chamber, nitrous just does it more effeciently and more cost effectively. I think the main reason everyone gets so sore about it is the fact that the nitrous equipped car that maybe had $1500 bucks in it and a weekends worth of work, just sucked the paint off there car that had ALOT more money and time invested. Nitrous really isn't dangerous as far as internal componants are concerned if you take the time to learn about it just like you would with forced induction...and you don't see that many idiots strap turbo's or s/c's to there cars without doing any research.
It all boils down to who's a sore loser and who's an honest racer...it doesn't matter to me, i always shake the hand of the competitor afterwards regardless of the outcome. My super pro car was setup with a 200 shot plate that i used for quick 16 matches, but besides that im still relatively new to N20. I use to have a shady outlook on the bottle, but ever since i used it and know how much time and money it can save and still produce an excellant outcome, im a deffinite believer.
11-12-2004, 03:51 AM
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Run what you brung!!! People get mad because they have spent thousands of dollars on their cars motor and then you go out and buy a kit for several hundred dollars and spank that a$$ with a stock motor.
11-12-2004, 08:56 AM
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I am a certified n20 junky myself. Just can't get away from it. I was out the other night in Grand Rapids nice and cool out. There was a turbocharged BMW M3 killing people from a roll. I pulled up in the "stock" appearing s-10 wit hthe bottle nice and warm. Asked if he wanted to go, "yes" he was eager to kill me. He wanted to go from a 40 roll. I said ok, went to the truck put in a program to go from 50%-75% within .5 sec. I left him bus lengths behind by the time I hit about 120. Funny thing is he thought it was gonna be a good race cause someone told him that the truck goes 12's lol....Nothin better I tell ya.
11-12-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix383
Yep I have been getting you had to cheat using NOS to beat me for 20+ years.
I had a run with a guy in a 2800 lb 88 Coupe Stang he had a 13 to 1 347 stroker on 116 gas solid roller .670 somthing lift all the suspension mods in hell and 28x11.5 W slicks and said it was a street car! I was like what ever just line up and with my everyday driver 3600+lb car 10.37 to 1 93 octane 383 full single exhaust I busted him using the 150 first stage only.
His buddy goes "You had to use nitrous to beat our NA car!" I said hold on here about and hour I'll be right back. Went home got the 80 Malibu with the 468 BBC 11 to 1 pump gas motor 2800 lb car and went back and put 4 cars one him and said "I knew you couldn't handle my real NA car so I gave you a chance against my heavy body juice car so quit whining! hehe
I had a run with a guy in a 2800 lb 88 Coupe Stang he had a 13 to 1 347 stroker on 116 gas solid roller .670 somthing lift all the suspension mods in hell and 28x11.5 W slicks and said it was a street car! I was like what ever just line up and with my everyday driver 3600+lb car 10.37 to 1 93 octane 383 full single exhaust I busted him using the 150 first stage only.
His buddy goes "You had to use nitrous to beat our NA car!" I said hold on here about and hour I'll be right back. Went home got the 80 Malibu with the 468 BBC 11 to 1 pump gas motor 2800 lb car and went back and put 4 cars one him and said "I knew you couldn't handle my real NA car so I gave you a chance against my heavy body juice car so quit whining! hehe
11-12-2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
I've heard this so many times.The thing is I love NITROUS.There is nothing like the rush nitrous gives.There is no lag,no hesitation.BOOM there it is extra horses just like that.Some people build there cars for motor,some for turbos or blowers.Me,I build it for nitrous.This isnt school.I dont have a cheat sheat taped to my buddies back.LOL This is RACING.I always thought Racing was about getting to the finish line faster.You can tell who is the real racers.They are the ones who did the research to find out the truth of the shady areas that are always misled.After theat research they will find out that the guys that blew up did something wrong(90% of the time).Its usualy the user not the kit.So if using nitrous is cheating Im a big Cheater.But go ahead and bring your all motor car with no power adder and see what this 300 to 400 shot will do.You will beacome a cheater also.LOL
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Anyway, the moral of the story is that I'm getting a NOS setup too now, and I won't get caught with my pants down again, lol. I don't classify low 13s to be slow but if they are juicing, it's not fast enough, haha. Here comes 150/175 shot and 11s.
11-12-2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
I am a certified n20 junky myself. Just can't get away from it. I was out the other night in Grand Rapids nice and cool out. There was a turbocharged BMW M3 killing people from a roll. I pulled up in the "stock" appearing s-10 wit hthe bottle nice and warm. Asked if he wanted to go, "yes" he was eager to kill me. He wanted to go from a 40 roll. I said ok, went to the truck put in a program to go from 50%-75% within .5 sec. I left him bus lengths behind by the time I hit about 120. Funny thing is he thought it was gonna be a good race cause someone told him that the truck goes 12's lol....Nothin better I tell ya.
11-12-2004, 01:01 PM
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Oh yeah well I havent sprayed since june since I was waiting for motor all summer so now that the snow will be falling again I hope I can get just one blast down the highway . That should suffice me a lil bit otherwise im gonna spray my snow blower... Oh ill do it trust me