how many companies do a nitrogen push setup?
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From: windsor, ont. canada - Home of the fastest LT1 6spd.
how many companies do a nitrogen push setup? is there anyone other than Nano? or do they have the market cornered, lol!!!!
thanks
taner
thanks
taner
There is no market cornered....they are just the only ones with a salable package. I need to put a kit together for sale. I am sure I can get one with comparable performance (although a different method) for about $100-$150 less than NANO.
Dont get me wrong though...the NANO package is a good one from what I have seen and read.
Dont get me wrong though...the NANO package is a good one from what I have seen and read.
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From: windsor, ont. canada - Home of the fastest LT1 6spd.
thanks for the info. Wizards of NOS have a pretty interesting forum, and tonnes of discussion on push systems.
His latest "electronically controlled" push setup is a copy of my setup IMO. There is evidence of discussion here on LS1tech a full 2 years before he made a setup. Of course he will never admit to that...lol.
On The Tree
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From: Kemah TX
I did a DIY set up. Cost me about $150 for the N2 push setup. My N2 bottle is slightly larger than the NANO bottle but other than that it serves the same purpose.
It is not very high teck, but it should work. We are just waiting on a few parts so we can finish plumbing the intake.
It is not very high teck, but it should work. We are just waiting on a few parts so we can finish plumbing the intake.
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The Gizard sucks, and I also was in some of the talks that got deleted. We were schooling mister no nothing and he did not like it. Also, is very anti US and all the US n2o companies. I would highly rec staying clear of this guy and his ricer aimed stuff.
You can take it to the bank that many vendors and companies are putting together push kits right now. After they became legal in NHRA and the success of the NANO it then becomes a no brainer, ask me how I know, lol.
Oh yea, the Gizard did copy Al's design, what a tool; But he'll claim that he invented n2o, hehehe.
Robert
You can take it to the bank that many vendors and companies are putting together push kits right now. After they became legal in NHRA and the success of the NANO it then becomes a no brainer, ask me how I know, lol.
Oh yea, the Gizard did copy Al's design, what a tool; But he'll claim that he invented n2o, hehehe.
Robert
I like it. On The Tree
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From: Kemah TX
Dyi We are going to do some test as soon as we finish plumbing the intake. We are going to spray the intake as it is sitting on the bench and watch the preasure drop. we will do a few 10 second blast to set the nitrogen preasure so it stays in the range we want it to. It is all prety strait forward.
15# NOS bottle with a high flow valve that has a gauge port and an extra port that we are using for the N2 push(puts the N2 on top of the liquid, not down the siphon tube). We have a cometial type N2 bottle that is a little smaller than a 10# NOS bottle with our regulator on it. After the regulator I have a check valve, a ball valve, then a flex line tied into the extra port on the NOS.
As the liquid NOS leaves the bottle through the siphon tube and the bottle preasure drops the N2 will fill the "air space" maintaining bottle preasure. The N2 regulator only allows 1000#s or whatever we set it as to flow out.
And thats all there is to it. After we do our bench test with the 300 HP foger, we are going to do it with the 150 jets , then put it back on the truck and see how it works.
It is a FORD RANGER by the way, lol. But id has a BBC 454
Last edited by lionelc-5; Feb 14, 2008 at 10:51 AM.
Well you said it , I used a regulator. It is a comertial type that I got from a friend that works at a welding supply. It has a range from 500# to 2000#.
We are going to do some test as soon as we finish plumbing the intake. We are going to spray the intake as it is sitting on the bench and watch the preasure drop. we will do a few 10 second blast to set the nitrogen preasure so it stays in the range we want it to. It is all prety strait forward.
15# NOS bottle with a high flow valve that has a gauge port and an extra port that we are using for the N2 push(puts the N2 on top of the liquid, not down the siphon tube). We have a cometial type N2 bottle that is a little smaller than a 10# NOS bottle with our regulator on it. After the regulator I have a check valve, a ball valve, then a flex line tied into the extra port on the NOS.
As the liquid NOS leaves the bottle through the siphon tube and the bottle preasure drops the N2 will fill the "air space" maintaining bottle preasure. The N2 regulator only allows 1000#s or whatever we set it as to flow out.
And thats all there is to it. After we do our bench test with the 300 HP foger, we are going to do it with the 150 jets , then put it back on the truck and see how it works.
It is a FORD RANGER by the way, lol. But id has a BBC 454
We are going to do some test as soon as we finish plumbing the intake. We are going to spray the intake as it is sitting on the bench and watch the preasure drop. we will do a few 10 second blast to set the nitrogen preasure so it stays in the range we want it to. It is all prety strait forward.
15# NOS bottle with a high flow valve that has a gauge port and an extra port that we are using for the N2 push(puts the N2 on top of the liquid, not down the siphon tube). We have a cometial type N2 bottle that is a little smaller than a 10# NOS bottle with our regulator on it. After the regulator I have a check valve, a ball valve, then a flex line tied into the extra port on the NOS.
As the liquid NOS leaves the bottle through the siphon tube and the bottle preasure drops the N2 will fill the "air space" maintaining bottle preasure. The N2 regulator only allows 1000#s or whatever we set it as to flow out.
And thats all there is to it. After we do our bench test with the 300 HP foger, we are going to do it with the 150 jets , then put it back on the truck and see how it works.
It is a FORD RANGER by the way, lol. But id has a BBC 454
That was how I did my first push setup. With an industrial gas regulator. It worked just fine. There where a few problems with it. The regulator "creeped" a bit. And it was slow acting around its set pressure. May have been my regulator or it may be typical of those industrial style regulators.
Second thing is that style regulator probably wont keep up with much over a 150 shot. But I am curious to see your testing. Yours may be different.
Most regulators are a restirction due to design...and will have a maximum flow they can maintain...especially near thier set pressure.
I believe thats why NANO had thier own design made. To operate FAST near the set pressure, be very fast acting, and flow much greater than the typical regulator out there.
However...your industrial regulator will still provide 50% of the benifits on NANO. It will raise the nitrous bottle pressure rapidly to your desired level. it will fight pressure drop during a run (it may not keep up completely) and if it does drop slightly you will have full pressure within a few second of stopping spraying.
I used that setup for almost a year with good success......but its not quite like a FULL FLOW setup that can keep up with nitrous demand during a run.
Thats why NANO has you jet down...because pressure doesnt waiver at all.
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Well thats why we are going to do some "bench" test so we can see how well the regulator will keep up. I was concerned about the flow of the regulator also. But it has a much greater flow area than the 1/8" NPT inlet on the NOS gauge, so I am hoping it will not be the restriction in the setup.
I will post up our results next week when we waist a few bottlls of NOS.
Either way it will be alot of fun.
LionelC
I will post up our results next week when we waist a few bottlls of NOS.
Either way it will be alot of fun.
LionelC
