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Old May 12, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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I cant seem to get a instant hit off the line. I am running a 150 wet shot through a HSW plate kit, I have my window switch set at 1500rpms, so it should just hit as soon as I go WOT. I get about a half second delay after launch. I purge through burnout so there isnt any air in the lines, bottle pressure is always 950-1100.

Would going to a regular nozzle aimed into the intake fix it??

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Old May 12, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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I may be wrong, but I think its maybe a bad idea to spray that early in the rpms?...
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Old May 12, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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I have a 125 shot wired that powers the noids and a button inside that grounds the system. So at the line im on the button and as soon as i put it to the floor it comes on. You will feel it for sure. 1500 is way to low to be spraying, even purging it through the motor is done @ 3500+
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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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You'll hurt something trying to spray at 1500.

Set it to a minimum of 2800. Maybe purge a little more in the burnout or something. My car left hard even when I didn't purge it. When i purged in the burnout if left like a ****.(Relatively speaking)
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Old May 13, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Ouch man... that put's a lot of stress on the internals of that motor trying to spray that low in the RPM band. Don't do it. Hold off about another 1500 RPM, for the motors sake.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Im not spraying that low I just have it set that low to be sure to have it spray at WOT, its not any different now then a WOT switch.
I leave the line at 2800 rpm's.

No way I could be at WOT and at 1500rpm's haha.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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He is spraying off the line, its not like hes spraying at 1500 rpms in 4th gear people.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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it could just simply be your kit. i had a nx maf kit with 150 shot on my silver ws6, real soft hit but track times showed it was working great, now on my black t/a i got a nos plate with 125 in it and it hits like a ****!!!! even dynoed it to make sure a.f.r was good and not to lean... it was fine. its pretty violent.....like i sayd might just be the kits nature.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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shorter nozzle lines, make sure you purge till the white shows
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How big of a converter do you have in the vehicle? It may be just taking a second to get to the 1500.

Good idea or bad though if you want to flash the converter off the line on the jug, you are going to have to hit the button right before you get your foot all the way to the floor.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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You dont need to purge to have it hit right away?

What wot switch are you running?

How long are your lines from the noids to the plate?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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how long are the lines going to the plate...it has alot to do on how fast the spray hits....
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The line length could be the problem. Its a Dynotune kit, I think the lines going to the nozzles are around 10" long.
I can only cut right at a 2.0 sec 60ft with the small delay. Once it hit a little sooner and I cut a 1.94 60'. I might try and hook up the regular nozzle in the intake tube and see if that will help it to spray directly into the intake.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 85mudblazin
The line length could be the problem. Its a Dynotune kit, I think the lines going to the nozzles are around 10" long.
I can only cut right at a 2.0 sec 60ft with the small delay. Once it hit a little sooner and I cut a 1.94 60'. I might try and hook up the regular nozzle in the intake tube and see if that will help it to spray directly into the intake.
That is a verry short line even with my 4 foot lines I was seeing activation right away.

Are they both 10" ?

Is it going rich?

The Plate is closer so it should hit sooner than the nozzle.

What wot switch are you running? (If its digital lower the setting a bit.)

I would test it at home with some help remove the lines and simulate leaving the line with the car off and see what the problem is.

I can not see how the plate could be the problem unless its going rich.

But my best 60' was with F16" and N24" lines to the plate it hits hard just before WOT, with an unheard of 1.62 60 for my IRS car 100% stock suspension with 265/40/18 BFGs at 23psi.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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That is a verry short line even with my 4 foot lines I was seeing activation right away.

Are they both 10" ?

Is it going rich?

The Plate is closer so it should hit sooner than the nozzle.

What wot switch are you running? (If its digital lower the setting a bit.)

I would test it at home with some help remove the lines and simulate leaving the line with the car off and see what the problem is.

I can not see how the plate could be the problem unless its going rich.

But my best 60' was with F16" and N24" lines to the plate it hits hard just before WOT, with an unheard of 1.62 60 for my IRS car 100% stock suspension with 265/40/18 BFGs at 23psi.
Sorry I just measured and there 24" lines.

I am running a Dynotune window switch (its digital).

Think maybe lowering the activation rpm to 0 would fix it?? Maybe its just a electronic delay making sure its above 1500rpm??

Its not going rich or lean theres just a delay. When it hits its hits nice and hard with no bog at all.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Only reason I can see why the plate would affect it is that the plate sprays into its self instead of straight back into the intake like a nozzle would. So the plate uses the engines vacuum to suck it in??
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Old May 13, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Does your window switch have a delay feature?
Some have a delay and you might have yours set.
Just an idea.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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I think it MIGHT just be bogging slightly. AFR stays right at 10.8-11.0 the entire run so that much fuel with little air flow could be felt as a delay??
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 85mudblazin
Sorry I just measured and there 24" lines.

I am running a Dynotune window switch (its digital).

Think maybe lowering the activation rpm to 0 would fix it?? Maybe its just a electronic delay making sure its above 1500rpm??

Its not going rich or lean theres just a delay. When it hits its hits nice and hard with no bog at all.
What are you using for wot?

No not if it is working correctly set it at 2,300 if thats when you want it to hit.
Test the WS start the car and push the button on the WS so it shows rpm and make sure uts right.


Originally Posted by 85mudblazin
I think it MIGHT just be bogging slightly. AFR stays right at 10.8-11.0 the entire run so that much fuel with little air flow could be felt as a delay??
With both lines at 24" the N20 should get there first and it should go lean for .2 or so post a screen shot of you log file.

What happens if you are at rolling at wot and hit the switch? instant hit? or same delay?

I would test it at home with some help remove the lines and simulate leaving the line with the car off and see what the problem is.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SY732
What are you using for wot?

No not if it is working correctly set it at 2,300 if thats when you want it to hit.
Test the WS start the car and push the button on the WS so it shows rpm and make sure uts right.




With both lines at 24" the N20 should get there first and it should go lean for .2 or so post a screen shot of you log file.

What happens if you are at rolling at wot and hit the switch? instant hit? or same delay?

I would test it at home with some help remove the lines and simulate leaving the line with the car off and see what the problem is.
I dont believe it has a delay feature, atleast it doesnt say anything on Dynotune's instructions about one.

I am using the window switch for WOT activation.


Ill get a log showing a off the line launch.
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