waterbug1999

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Ive had my WS hooked up for a few years and now i am adding a timing tuner.



On the TT, where do i tap in the grey/white wire onto the WS at? I getting a blinking red/green light witch says it not hooked up right. I have the white wire to the white wire as you can see in the pic, but where does the grey one go? Anyone? Thanks.

waterbug1999

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Well, I get both LEDS to blink for a quick secound when I turn the key over. Now, how can I MAKE SURE its going to retard timing to whatever settin I set it to when I activate the N20?

waterbug1999

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OK.. well, the way I have it, I have the key on and then arm the N20 switch and I can hear the N20 noid pop. IS this normal?

waterbug1999

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Some has to have this combo and knows where grey wires connects to.

ws98ta

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white gets hooked into your system arm wire after wot switch.
grey is hooked to relay ground for your noids.
pm me with any questions.

waterbug1999

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I dont have any of the wiring for the WS as it blew out of my tool box on the way to the track.. I am hoping if I go by that, I can cplice in the timing tuner.

So, if I could find the wire diagram of the WS, I "should" be able to go off that and wire in the timing tuner.. Right?

All my wires are heat shrinked together so I cant really trace any specific wire from what you see on back. Unless, I want to try and use a razor blade to get it off and "hopefully" not slice any wires.

So, what you see in the pic, where can the white/grey wire get tapped into?

ws98ta

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if your just using it to retard timing the grey wire doesnt need to be hooked up.
just splice the white wire into your noid power wire so
it will retard the timing only when your spraying.

waterbug1999

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Yea, I have the WS to do all other things.. I just want to retard timing when spraying and keep full timing when NA.

So, just tap white wire into N20 wire? Will it retard timing that quick? I mean, if I do it like that, it wont pull timing till the N20 is hitting.

Right now, I have the white wire hooked up to the white wire on the WS, witch I "believe" is the arming switch wire that leads up to the toggle switch.

Anyone have the wireing digram that come with that WS?

ws98ta

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I don't think it takes to long to retard the timing. You would maximize your na tune till the no2 hits. Just a thought.
in the tt diagram it says to tap in after the wot swtich.

waterbug1999

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I hear ya...

Thats where I got confused.. After the WOT switch? It runs off the TB sensor (forgot what pin I had to splice into on the computer) and WOT is ~4.6 volts.

I wish Nitro Daves people would post up the wiring diagram so I could see where all the wires that went off the WS is going. then I could realate that to where I need to put the white/grey wire from the timing tuner.

waterbug1999

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Hey, so I found the wiring diagram on the WS..




So, white wire on the Timing tuner would go to the white wire on the Window Switch correct? Where would the grey wire from the TT go then?

Ray@Nitrous Outlet

try this



edit : Pic deleted

ws98ta

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I would still splice into the noid power line. That way it will only retard timing when your spraying.
If you tie into the white it will pull timing any time the switch is on.
Just my $.02.
If your using the ws to to activate your noids you can leave the grey unhooked, it only grounds the relay for the window switch part of the TT.

waterbug1999

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Thats the way I had it (white wire from TT to ACC/white wire on the WS) and then the grey to the noids (pin 85) and the noids would pop when armed. Those schematics are not wired the way I have mine. I wired mine the way the instructions are with the WS.

I did not think the TT will work with just the white wire to ACC.

waterbug1999

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Hey Ray, what did Full Throttle say?

waterbug1999

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Hey Bud.. well ray cant get ahold of anyone to help me on this.

A question, do any of the LEDS flick on for a sec when you activate it? I wanna make sure that it is detecting the N20/WS activation and pulls timing like it suppose to.

I just hooked the TT white wire to the white wire on the WS (1st pic) witch gets switched on by a switch i have in the car but I get the green/red blinking light.

ws98ta

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I know red and green alternating is bad(hooked up wrong)
it should light the red once the switch is on and you are above your set rpm.
I will check mine once I get home.

waterbug1999

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I tried the way Ray suggested and it just pulsated the noids as soon as I pluged it into the TT..

The only way I can get the red light to flick when activated is with the TT white wire to the white wire on the WS (like in the pic) (pin 86). Then the grey wire from the TT is hooked up into the 1st stage coming off the WS (pin 85).

But, when I activate it, the noids pop once (and the red LED flicks one time as well) and then nothing happens..

I was thinking about trying this. I have the 1st stage of the WS hooked in series with a FPSS to save the motor if the fuel pressure drops..
So, I was thinking about disconnecting the other side of it so the noids wont ingauge (the TT will be like normal IF it works correctly) and retard the timing on the TT to the max and log it on my EFIlive to see if it pulls all the timing.
If it works, I should notice all the timing being pulled and be able to see it as well. I can live with the noids popping one time I guess.

waterbug1999

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Scratch what I said above... I started the car up and activated it and it just kills the car every single time. Then its hard to re-start. So, just unplugged it and back to normal now.

ws98ta

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are you running 2 stages?
if not try using the tt as the ws.
I am just using a tt.