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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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What plate would be best for a Vic jr or GMPP single plane intake? I'd like a dual stage. Not decided on wet or dry just yet, but I don't want a wet vs dry debate. I just want to know what options I have. I definately want a dual stage setup with a 200-250hp total shot.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Shiz ran a Nitrous Pro Flow 2 stage plate and it worked great.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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You may want to look at the NX Gemini Twin (single stage) or the NX Gemini Quad (dual stage). I'm just finishing up the install of my Gemini twin plate now. Both pleates are perimeter style and should have great atomization. I was pretty impressed when I was flow tesing my single stage on my intake. The machine work is awesome. A few vendor's on this site should be able to give you a great deal too.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:20 AM
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If money is no object, I would go with a speedtech.

http://www.speedtechnitrous.com/plat...50PN231110.cfm

Second choice would be the pro-flow plate
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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I second speedtech. The craftsmanship is awesome in their nitrous kits. I went out to Alabama to their office and they are a great bunch of guys. They machine everything in-house and the way the plate is made they guarantee more power from their plate on the same shot versus other manufacturers.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Mine was a PRO-flow . That kit was sick! and they send you the 110 jets. LOL
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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I have not used the speedtech plate but everyone I talk to says its great..

I have used the NX plate on many applications and it worked great. Brett from F-body central uses the ZEX plate and has been doing so for a couple of years now.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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the zex is not a good plate for bigger shots......
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Can the NX single stage plate be used as a dual stage dry plate?

What kind of prices are on the speedtech plates? I didn't see any on the web site.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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i like my NX plate allot, i just had to make my own hard lines. my buddy had a custom proflo done on his stang and it worked very very well.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Where/how did you mount the solenoids, Noyzee? Any pics? I planned on making hard lines for mine as well.
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Can the NX single stage plate be used as a dual stage dry plate?
You should be able to. You may want to double check with HSW and see if they now. Are you planning on using the Interface or just custom tuning?

I used to T that was supplied with the plate and had zero flow issues. I spoke to NXRicky about chaning the lines out but said it wasn't needed on the new style plate (new plate has 8 spray oriface for each fuel & nitrous). Not sure if you care to see, but here's how I mounted my solenoids (not an LS1 setup but may give you an idea).



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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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I went this route...



Mine is set up for 50-300 HP...but we can also do it for 100-500 HP....dual stage dry is easy...dual stage wet is doable but requires running each stage independantly
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Originally Posted by myfast70
You should be able to. You may want to double check with HSW and see if they now. Are you planning on using the Interface or just custom tuning?

I used to T that was supplied with the plate and had zero flow issues. I spoke to NXRicky about chaning the lines out but said it wasn't needed on the new style plate (new plate has 8 spray oriface for each fuel & nitrous). Not sure if you care to see, but here's how I mounted my solenoids (not an LS1 setup but may give you an idea).



do yourself a favor, flow that intake off the car, then let me know what you think. looking at it from the n2o noid side the straight pice right off the noid will get atleast 75% of your nitrous. no offence to rick, i know he is super smart guy, but flow it. i did, and i changed it, no way is it correct.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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I'll be using EFI Live COS5, no interface. Ray, how much does a spray bar like that for a dual stage dry cost?
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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$275 for the parts and labor to install...the nice thing about it is it is matched to the intake and does not affect hood clearance.

I got the Vic-E, and Elbow under the stock cowl, and LT1 Ram-Air Hood

Here is the LS1 intake

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Originally Posted by Noyzee
do yourself a favor, flow that intake off the car, then let me know what you think. looking at it from the n2o noid side the straight pice right off the noid will get atleast 75% of your nitrous. no offence to rick, i know he is super smart guy, but flow it. i did, and i changed it, no way is it correct.

Actually I did per your & Rick's recommendations and found it to be very equal. Well, from what my eye's and my buddie's eye's could see. I have no other form of measuring device. I tried as you see it pictured with the carb on, then carb off and then just the plate being held by hand and everytime it flowed about as equal as the eye could visually see. I wouldn't think it would really make a difference as the jets that you use would be the final "limiter" or "restriction" of flow? Isn't that the point of the jets, to limit the amount of nitrous being fed into the plate? There is one jet on each fitting and they are of the same size.

I hope rick doesn't mind but this came from his pm. Is it possible that you have an older design plate? Keep in mind, I will not be going over a 200 shot so maybe it won't be as obvious?

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I think you will be fine if its the plate I designed. Here is how you can tell...
Look at the bottom of the plate where the nitrous and fuel discharge ports are. You should see 2 nitrous and 2 fuel holes over ever side of the plate, for a total of 8 and 8.
Then take your fuel lines off, and remove the jets. Take an air hose and blow into 1 jet fitting, and see if you feel air coming out the other one. If it does it has a common channel for that one all the way around. I would do this test on both nitrous and fuel.
You should still dry fire it to confirm the nitrous is going down the runners. Dry firing you can use pressured air as well and reach your finger in there and feel where the air in blowing. DONOT USE YOUR FINGER IF SPRAYING NITROUS IT WILL HURT REALLY FREAKING BAD.
Remember you are confirming where the nitrous/air is going, not the fuel channels. Those should be in line and blowing across the plate. The nitrous is what drives the fuel down the runner.
That intake should be PERFECT for the plate. Thats the one I used for port locations, but still check IT. Edelbrock as any casting can move around in the casting process.
hope this helps
Rick
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Actually I did per your & Rick's recommendations and found it to be very equal. Well, from what my eye's and my buddie's eye's could see. I have no other form of measuring device. I tried as you see it pictured with the carb on, then carb off and then just the plate being held by hand and everytime it flowed about as equal as the eye could visually see. I wouldn't think it would really make a difference as the jets that you use would be the final "limiter" or "restriction" of flow? Isn't that the point of the jets, to limit the amount of nitrous being fed into the plate? There is one jet on each fitting and they are of the same size.

I hope rick doesn't mind but this came from his pm. Is it possible that you have an older design plate? Keep in mind, I will not be going over a 200 shot so maybe it won't be as obvious?
all i know is i flowed mine with nitrous not air, and i flowed it with and without the t-body on. vinny from 860 worked with me on this.
80% of the spray came out the 2 center runners on the one side. we then bent up equil lines and it was right on the money. all i know is what i saw. maybe vinny can jump in and shed some light on this. it will also depend what size jets, feed line, bottle pressure etc etc. we flowed it with 100 and 200 jets at around 900-950 bottle pressure and a -6 line as it would be on the car.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
all i know is i flowed mine with nitrous not air, and i flowed it with and without the t-body on. vinny from 860 worked with me on this.
80% of the spray came out the 2 center runners on the one side. we then bent up equil lines and it was right on the money. all i know is what i saw. maybe vinny can jump in and shed some light on this. it will also depend what size jets, feed line, bottle pressure etc etc. we flowed it with 100 and 200 jets at around 900-950 bottle pressure and a -6 line as it would be on the car.
I did use Nitrous, 950 psi, -4 "race line", 150 jets. It came out evenly from all 8 orifaces. Rock mention that the old plate had two spereate passages and the new ones are all tied together. Maybe you have an older plate? How long have you had yours? I just picked mine up about 6 months ago.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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another vote for nitrous pro flow plate....

it's friggin awesome...... single stage plate here and thinking about converting it to dual stage.....
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