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I'm still a fan of the new rules and understand why each one is being implemented. I also understand why someone would want their fast times put up even though they might have been kicked off the track. A fast time is a fast time right ?? How about you have to be kicked off the track twice in the same month ? 
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Originally Posted by Todd2001SS
I went to the TNT portable dyno and was so embarrassed (low #'s) the next day or so I went to Carb conn (to verify)and the numbers were almost exactly the same. There are variables, weather, temp of the engine, etc, but the same for racing the quarter mile. Also you can go from one track to another and run different times, so does that mean track times are no good.
Dynoing is just another tool for measurement, but you do not have to be a good driver to get good results, lol.
Doesn't modding your motor means you want bigger HP, correct? Also making it stronger too. Why don't you want to compare mods to power? I know that mods like suspension = better track times and do nothing at the dyno (almost nothing).
Example me = 471 rwhp = 12.90 track 119.xx
WAHUSKER 12.437 @113.04 (1.92) '00 WS6 A4 = 420 (I can not remember the exact hp)
Maybe post the dyno with the track times, it just interestes me to death as why for example Mark is faster...better over all set up, suspension etc. & driving. Had to use you as the example Mark, lol.
Please do not take my post as angry, or negative, just pointing out my thoughts, we can agree to disagree. I just think dyno #'s tell a story compared with track times.
I would copy Marks mods (Suspension) and can get away with less hp and I may run faster.
Dynoing is just another tool for measurement, but you do not have to be a good driver to get good results, lol.
Doesn't modding your motor means you want bigger HP, correct? Also making it stronger too. Why don't you want to compare mods to power? I know that mods like suspension = better track times and do nothing at the dyno (almost nothing).
Example me = 471 rwhp = 12.90 track 119.xx
WAHUSKER 12.437 @113.04 (1.92) '00 WS6 A4 = 420 (I can not remember the exact hp)
Maybe post the dyno with the track times, it just interestes me to death as why for example Mark is faster...better over all set up, suspension etc. & driving. Had to use you as the example Mark, lol.
Please do not take my post as angry, or negative, just pointing out my thoughts, we can agree to disagree. I just think dyno #'s tell a story compared with track times.
I would copy Marks mods (Suspension) and can get away with less hp and I may run faster.
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From: Marysville, WA
Originally Posted by mykdiver
He is faster because he has an auto, which is easier to launch. Also you showed more hp, but he has more loss due to the A4, so when it comes down to it, you probably have close to the same hp.
I think there are going to be several of us that will NEED a rollcage this year for our new times to count. Personally I do not believe I need a rollcage in my car for drag racing. I think I can recover from just about any scenario I encounter. But there is always the weird oil or gas spill that nobody knows about until you are spinning brodies & bouncing off the guardrail at 100mph at the 1000 ft mark (huh Zeke?).
The problem here is EVERYONE'S point is valid. I will need ~ $1000.00 in safety equip this year to not get kicked off the track. And twice that for mods to run 11s. But we need to draw the line somewhere. And having rules that more or less follow what the NHRA has created seems pretty fair to me. Not only for sportsmanship, but for safety. We don't want anyone getting hurt trying to get on this stupid list. (no disrespect intended....every car / person on this list is bitchin!)
The other part of this arguemnt is anyone can make a car go fast enough to get on this list. Some sticky tires, a 150 shot, and a good clutch or converter & just about ANY LS1 or LT1 will run 11s. But you need to be able to do it legally & back it up. This is about more than JUST going stupid fast.....IMO.
Oh, & my car had 392rwhp compared to Todds 470+. Why is mine faster at the track? 1) my suspension is setup for drag racing, 2) my car is an automatic & gets great traction (see item 1), 3) Todd has been to the track with his car one time & 4) his is a SHOW car. He's not about to torture the thing to get the low et it's capable of running. Trust me, it's an 11 sec car!
The problem here is EVERYONE'S point is valid. I will need ~ $1000.00 in safety equip this year to not get kicked off the track. And twice that for mods to run 11s. But we need to draw the line somewhere. And having rules that more or less follow what the NHRA has created seems pretty fair to me. Not only for sportsmanship, but for safety. We don't want anyone getting hurt trying to get on this stupid list. (no disrespect intended....every car / person on this list is bitchin!)
The other part of this arguemnt is anyone can make a car go fast enough to get on this list. Some sticky tires, a 150 shot, and a good clutch or converter & just about ANY LS1 or LT1 will run 11s. But you need to be able to do it legally & back it up. This is about more than JUST going stupid fast.....IMO.
Oh, & my car had 392rwhp compared to Todds 470+. Why is mine faster at the track? 1) my suspension is setup for drag racing, 2) my car is an automatic & gets great traction (see item 1), 3) Todd has been to the track with his car one time & 4) his is a SHOW car. He's not about to torture the thing to get the low et it's capable of running. Trust me, it's an 11 sec car!
Last edited by WAHUSKER; Dec 28, 2004 at 08:42 AM.
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From: Lynnwood, WA (North of Seattle)
Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
I think there are going to be several of us that will NEED a rollcage this year for our new times to count. Personally I do not believe I need a rollcage in my car for drag racing. I think I can recover from just about any scenario I encounter. But there is always the weird oil or gas spill that nobody knows about until you are spinning brodies & bouncing off the guardrail at 100mph at the 1000 ft mark (huh Zeke?).
The problem here is EVERYONE'S point is valid. I will need ~ $1000.00 in safety equip this year to not get kicked off the track. And twice that for mods to run 11s. But we need to draw the line somewhere. And having rules that more or less follow what the NHRA has created seems pretty fair to me. Not only for sportsmanship, but for safety. We don't want anyone getting hurt trying to get on this stupid list. (no disrespect intended....every car / person on this list is bitchin!)
The other part of this arguemnt is anyone can make a car go fast enough to get on this list. Some sticky tires, a 150 shot, and a good clutch or converter & just about ANY LS1 or LT1 will run 11s. But you need to be able to do it legally & back it up. This is about more than JUST going stupid fast.....IMO.
Oh, & my car had 392rwhp compared to Todds 470+. Why is mine faster at the track? 1) my suspension is setup for drag racing, 2) my car is an automatic & gets great traction (see item 1), 3) Todd has been to the track with his car one time & 4) his is a SHOW car. He's not about to torture the thing to get the low et it's capable of running. Trust me, it's an 11 sec car!
The problem here is EVERYONE'S point is valid. I will need ~ $1000.00 in safety equip this year to not get kicked off the track. And twice that for mods to run 11s. But we need to draw the line somewhere. And having rules that more or less follow what the NHRA has created seems pretty fair to me. Not only for sportsmanship, but for safety. We don't want anyone getting hurt trying to get on this stupid list. (no disrespect intended....every car / person on this list is bitchin!)
The other part of this arguemnt is anyone can make a car go fast enough to get on this list. Some sticky tires, a 150 shot, and a good clutch or converter & just about ANY LS1 or LT1 will run 11s. But you need to be able to do it legally & back it up. This is about more than JUST going stupid fast.....IMO.
Oh, & my car had 392rwhp compared to Todds 470+. Why is mine faster at the track? 1) my suspension is setup for drag racing, 2) my car is an automatic & gets great traction (see item 1), 3) Todd has been to the track with his car one time & 4) his is a SHOW car. He's not about to torture the thing to get the low et it's capable of running. Trust me, it's an 11 sec car!
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I for one am going to push my luck without the roll bar and racing seat/harness to begin the year... I'm hoping that they won't kick me off the track since I won't be getting below 11.50, which is where the new rules draw the line for the bar. However, my t-tops may be the issue with them, so I'm going to cross my fingers that they don't notice or don't care...
So if I do get kicked off, well... then I'll just put a rush on that wolfe chrome moly 5 point bar, Corbeau seats, harness, and jacket.
So if I do get kicked off, well... then I'll just put a rush on that wolfe chrome moly 5 point bar, Corbeau seats, harness, and jacket.
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From: Kent WA
Originally Posted by Poik
Are different seats a requirement for 11.99 and faster? 
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Originally Posted by sardog46
hey jason, don't count on them not noticeing the cage, i got booted pretty quick. my cage goes in next week. hopefully. Also remember to run 11.99 you need a fire jacket, and other stuff
If I get kicked off the track, at least I can go to the wife and say "Look honey... I've spent all this money and now I can't race unless I get the proper safety equipment. You want me to be safe and be able to use my car since I've spent all this money already, right?"
Boyce,
If you really cared about this forum and the Northwest members you would create individual tailored "top" lists so each and every one of us could dominate in our class. For example I think you should have a top list for "fastest never-on-the-dragstrip 2002 Black Firehawk. You can add #966 to the list of conditions if you must. Also, you should add fastest Big block C4 Corvette to the list. And maybe go ahead with a Red H2 class as well. That should allow me to be on three lists and run completely unopposed. I mean it just isn't fair to have all those stipulations you laid out because everything you listed is cheating in someone's opinion. The only way ot please us all is to go forth with the plan I have laid out for you here.
Makes me happy... anyone have a problem with that?
Cory
If you really cared about this forum and the Northwest members you would create individual tailored "top" lists so each and every one of us could dominate in our class. For example I think you should have a top list for "fastest never-on-the-dragstrip 2002 Black Firehawk. You can add #966 to the list of conditions if you must. Also, you should add fastest Big block C4 Corvette to the list. And maybe go ahead with a Red H2 class as well. That should allow me to be on three lists and run completely unopposed. I mean it just isn't fair to have all those stipulations you laid out because everything you listed is cheating in someone's opinion. The only way ot please us all is to go forth with the plan I have laid out for you here.
Makes me happy... anyone have a problem with that?
Cory
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Oh, and all corvettes must retain FACTORY supplied engine blocks for thier powerplant. And if its not the factory supplied block per that model year, the car must make its pass on a set of circa 1967 firestone, bias ply, red stripe tires.......... ROFLMFAO!!!!
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From: Redmond Washington
Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
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If I get kicked off the track, at least I can go to the wife and say "Look honey... I've spent all this money and now I can't race unless I get the proper safety equipment. You want me to be safe and be able to use my car since I've spent all this money already, right?"
If I get kicked off the track, at least I can go to the wife and say "Look honey... I've spent all this money and now I can't race unless I get the proper safety equipment. You want me to be safe and be able to use my car since I've spent all this money already, right?"