HitmanLSX

ok... I need opinions... mcleod twin disc or textralia or somethin else... needs to be daily drivable and able to withstand stop and go... not gonna do any serious clutch drops cuz money for a 12-bolt isn't in the near future. We'll just say that insurance was rather nice to me today and tomorrow morning may turn out even better

and state why

99blancoSS

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Never had any trouble with my Tex. Grabs doesnt slip, has never slipped on me no matter what rpm I shift or how hard I drop it in first. Havent used the Twin, heard its real good. Have heard another disparge the Tex but really dont know how many that person actualy dealt with to make that kind of a statement. Havent heard from anyone in the NW about the cartek, just online. I know of another person here uses the Twin and swears by it, have seen his write up on it so if I had a problem in the future and had to switch I might try the twin. The tex was less money as well which influenced my decision. Other than installation error causing a problem, I've not heard anything bad about the Tex. Some people push a product because thats what they sell but I dont think you can go wrong with either of those two. Some people swear by Specs, but I've seen a lot of complaints about them not lasting very long, enough to influence me not to buy it.

Ryan K

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In my opinion, you are on borrowed time with any aftermarket Clutch and a 10-bolt.

Rottluver

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That's the truth with a stock clutch as well.

TwoFast4Lv

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For the record I do NOT sell Mcleod's. As I have said before I go with what I know to work's The tex Local that went south? I did not install but it did fail. The other tex local has some strange dyno graph's. Some thing is slipping some where.

This is where "I" am coming from. When some one ask me a question I answer it with experiance. I do not have enough experiance with the Tex yet and there has been at least one local failure(completely chowed Fly wheel). So experiance tell's me to be catious. That is how Spec ,Clutch net ,Center force and a few others started out. I WOULD like to have a good singal disk alternitive. IMHO the best singal out there is a stock Z06 clutch! Out of the 50+ F/Y-bodies have installed clutch's in the Twin is the only thing that has NOT failed

So what does that mean? I will install any clutch you want but if you ask me which one I recomend it for High Hp abuse it will be a Street twin

BTW I know of at least one street twin with almost 100k miles on it He wish's he could say that about the trhee broken rear ends...

99blancoSS

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I never said you sold them, and you havent even been in this thread yet to say twin. $1200 is standard pricing from everywhere I checked. I did ask for your experience in the last post for you to say the tex was suspect. You never answered. Man wanted an opinion so I tried to provide accurate info from experience. I own the clutch and am making a decent amount of power. I know about the flywheel incident or at least what was posted and installation error wasnt ruled out from what I remember And no I didnt say and wasnt trying to infer you did it ( I actualy contacted you about doing mine if you remember and other work, but you were and are way to far away from me). A slipping dyno graph I hadnt heard of and is interesting news to me. At what rpm and what power level? Under boost? what are the conditions causing the slip? THis is all pertinent info to me before I make judgement. Maybe there is a limit to how much power the tex can take and it isnt real clearly defined. Again all information I assemble by asking questions and getting answers. Questions are asked for information, not to attack the credentials of the person being questioned. Or at least thats what I'm doing when I asked in the first place "how many have you seen?" Then if you look I give credit to the Twin because of the people who have stated facts about it, and actualy say it would be my next option if I have trouble.

Tranzor

All I know is the McLeod Twin Disk ate the Eaton HD Posi in my 12 bolt like it was nothing... tore it up like tissue paper. And that was supposed to be Eaton's "Heavy Duty" offering... well, someone forgot to tell the Twin Disk that.

The McLeod is an awesome choice if you're going to be seriously drag racing or road coursing it. It engages like stock (except for the pedal pressure) doesn't chatter at all, and grabs hard enough to break everything in your drivetrain if it isn't built to handle it on a hard launch.

TwoFast4Lv

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I was in no way attacking you or your choice. I did not feel attacked either. I was posting experiance from the past 12 years on them Many clutch's will work "ok" if not pushed. When they are pushed is when things happen.

I will say ONCE AGAIN I do not have experiance with the Tex and would not mind installing a few to see. BUT past experiance has shown that every singal disk system tried has failed in a high percentage then acceptable for me.

So one last time. I was not attacking nor did I feel attacked in any way. I just laid out the facts from Experiance

99blancoSS

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Cool, I was just looking for the facts of what you heard. Being a trans specialist I figured you probably know what works very well and have seen a lot of different things. I hadn't heard anyone look at it as a single disk issue more than which brand of single disk was being used so thats good info right there as well. Mine makes noises some times and every once in a great while I'll get chatter. But it never seems to slip. But now Tom thinks I might have a an issue to deal with so who knows whats up. I'm getting horrendous noise at startup but it disipates mostly after being warm. Initial reaction is bottom end. Oil pressure doesnt fluxuate, holds steady at idle and climbs with the rpms and then holds. Sounds like a very cold diesel that has just started when I start in the am but not piston slap. Car has never had piston slap.

TwoFast4Lv

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That sucks

Tom will get you taken care of I am sure Chatted with him just last night

HitmanLSX

Hmmm I guess the LS7 is another option now?

TwoFast4Lv

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Well they have new part numbers...but not much newer

99blancoSS

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For once I think I'm going to have to think about money on this one. I know its all gonna be forged, so I'm thinking that a 347 is all I'll be able to muster. Love to go bigger but budget is a major concern. First we need to isolate the problem. Maybe its the clutch, but Tom didnt think so from listenting to it quickly. Maybe its just real agressive piston slap or maybe a connecting rod is getting ready who freaking knows at this point, its buming me though. I've got way to much money into this car to have it sound like a POS. The thing is the money it would cost to tear it down and fix it would be about the same for a new shortblock I'm thinking. Also its my dd so gas mileage is a slight concern too. I already have 5.3 litre heads so going bigger would mean a head swap or some big re-working of these heads. Sheeesh, theres gonna be some decisions to be made shorlty I'm affraid.
My first thought is just a forged 347 that I can spray without fear, but I really like a high compression n/a motor as well. Can I do that ? Have almost 12:1 before I spray and not do any damage? I mean Ideal would be a ryan setup but unless I win megabucks that aint gonna happen. I saw a s/c vette in Tom's shop yesterday put down 550 on his mustang dyno, and it wasnt finished. He had hoped to top 600.

Rottluver

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You talking clutch? If so, it is my understanding that there are several things needed to use it in an LS1 car, BUT it really isn't much more expensive even with all the partsd then the other options and if it can hold on a new Z06.......I reckon it would work good on our cars.

HitmanLSX

yeah everything I've seen looks like just the LS7 Clutch kit and an LS2 flywheel? but haven't actually seen a full write up yet. Hmm might give the textralia a shot not gonna be launching too hard and gonna try some cone carving this year. Byunspeed recommended the OZ700 with the 8lb billet aluminum fly wheel.

Robert56

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The aussie clutch here and love it. i am also not nice to it. The above failure that Ellis talks about is the first I ahve heard about. I talked to phil in aussie land and he had said at that time that they had no failures in the US. Check the aussie thread in clutch section, many, many ,many have great things to say about the textralia. I myself have well over 100 clutch dumps from hell on the spray and holds like a mo fo, fwiw. Great street manors also, easy on the leg in heavy stop/go traffic. customer service second to none.
Robert

HitmanLSX

thanks robert was waitin to hear what you had to say about it. Which flywheel do you have?

Robert56

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Comes with Z06 flywheel and slave. Actually a f-body slave that is the same as the Z06 except for bleeder lenght (Z06 is shorter). you can also upgrade flywheel now to a special metal they have put together.
Robert

HitmanLSX

Yeah I was looking at either their new billet steel 18lb flywheel or their 8lb billet aluminum... but I've heard the really light flywheels in some cars are a pain to daily drive cuz they rev so fast

TwoFast4Lv

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Actually it is because they have no stored energy for take off's