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Old 12-08-2008, 05:57 PM
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hey guys, i just bought an airbrush kit from TCP Global.com and was just wondering if it was good? i know i shouldve asked before buying it but oh well lol. its the Iwata Eclipse HP-BCS airbrush with a compressor. paid $220 for it. is this a good kit for a beginner? i plan on trying to do some true fire with it. also what paint is good and where can i get some cheap?
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Do you know what the nozzle size is? If it is like the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS you have a great brush. I have used many and i favor the Eclipse HP-CS.
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the nozzle is 0.5mm did i get a good one? will it be a good one to do true fire with once i get the hang of it?
Old 12-08-2008, 11:06 PM
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Thats a pretty big nozzle, the iwata has a .30 or .35. It should work fine for true fire, but i dont know if you can get a really small hair line with that nozzle. It takes some skill with the iwata i can imagine it would be harder with a bigger nozzle.
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The nozzle is .35 for sure that is standard, but you can get different sizes. That size is the one i have always used for everything. The best paint to airbrush with is House of Kolor hands down.
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get the .3mm HP-C and be done with searching. Ive never bought another brush after that.
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oh okay. well do you think i should get a smaller nozzle? how much do they usually run? and where can i get some paint pretty cheap? is the paint hard to mix?
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get the .3mm HP-C and be done with searching. Ive never bought another brush after that.
well ive already bought the HP-BCS. where can i get a smaller size nozzle & how much do they run?
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The way you mix HOK is the easiest its 50/50, 50% paint to 50% reducer. That is the best consistancy for the airbrush. The .35 nozzle lets you spray small metallics and pearls as well. The smaller you go the less you can spray metallics and pearls. I have always bought my paint from the nearest paint supply so i dont know where to get it online or anything like that.
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oh okay, so im guessing you dont know where i can get a smaller nozzle at then either? and will the smaller nozzle help the true fire look more realistic?
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Go to an art supply like hobby lobby or crafts etc for the nozzle. As far as true fire goes you can even do it with a small touch up gun. True fire as you many know is a stencil you spray over. The hard thing about it is laying it out to where it looks natural, and the layering of the colors.Even the nozzle you have now will do unless you are doing it on a golf club or something that small then yeah you need a smaller nozzle. For a car, no.
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oh okay well then i may just keep the nozzle for now and then if i am going to spray on something smaller i will look for the smaller nozzle. man i dont wanna have to spend alot of $$$ on the stencil kit from HOK..
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I made mine out of the thin cardboard that is used to wrap sandpaper in. Its just the shape of a puzzle piece. Or you can even make it out of old X-ray plastics, they work great for stencils.
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okay so just kinda cut out a design in the way i want and try it out then huh? so you have done true fire before? is it hard? do you have any pics of some of your airbrushing??
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Its not hard, but it takes a couple of attempts to get the mapping right.

Here are some pics:

blue




without clear



green
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man i love the blue & green! like all 3 but i like them better than the traditional colors. so do you have to spray on the blue or green first then spray the white in the around the curves? how many colors are used to get the effect?
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I start off with
For Green fire
1, yellow.
2, kandy organic green, then highlight some more with yellow.
3, kandy green
4 highlight with white,
5 kandy green,
6 the last step should just be light highlights with 50/50 yellow and green.

I go through this until i have enough fire to make it look well and layered.

For the blue its the same except you use kandy blue, intead of green candy. And you use baby blue instead of yellow.
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okay seems pretty simple. do you use the stencil on every step?
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Everyone except the kandy steps, you have to spray the entire fire pattern with the kandy. Like if you were painting over it.
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oh okay & that doesnt cover the previous colors up?



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