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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BLULS1Z28
i am now lawyer and do not know what the laws are could there be a class action suit filled
to get a recall? i had the gm rep tell me the bubbles were cause by not taking care of the car. i was a detailer at the time for a gm body shop and the mangers knew it wasn't true and tried telling her that but she just said my hands are tied witch is bullshit . not only do i have the bubbles on my hard top i have paint peeling on my quarter i am screwed
wow... i came into the p&b section to find out my color code to have a spoiler painted and i stumble upon this... add my o1 nbm hardtop to the list, and my paint on the leading edge of my passenger door is ALL pealed off! Well went by the delaership just to see what they would say, they gave me a huge load of bs (i didnt have the case number) but they said it wouldnt matter, "its too old"... How does a recal or service bulletin or whatever you wanna call it have a shelf life? ridiculous.... Does anyone know a dealer in Ca that will help me out?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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hmm.. Okay I have a 01' b4c car.. with 113xxx miles would my car be covered? also my top had been repainted twice trying to fix the "bubbles"


HELP please I would love this fixed..
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rookie_biotch
hmm.. Okay I have a 01' b4c car.. with 113xxx miles would my car be covered? also my top had been repainted twice trying to fix the "bubbles"


HELP please I would love this fixed..
nope.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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no dout 99-02 wtf Gm you know that it was 98-02 i have a 98 ws6 i havent had a problem yet but gm is so ******* cheap and are such ********* to the customers wtf at least theyre steppin up a bit
I have never personally seen a '98 with this issue, and only a few people here have posted about having the issue with their '98. My guess is that the change-over in adhesive must've happened right at the end of the '98 model year and some late build date '98s got the newer, problematic '99+ glue.

My '98 is a 3/98 built car, making it just a few months shy of 10 years old. There is not a single bubble or wave anywhere in the roof paint. The car is garage kept under a cover most of the time as it is a show car, but when I do take the car out it's usually a hot, sunny summer day with hot temps. It often sits in full sun for 6-8 hours at car show events, etc., so it's seen plenty of hot days in the sun. But still no bubbles. If it hasn't happened in 10 years, I doubt it's going to happen ever.

On the other side of things, my '02 does have the issue. It's only got one small wavy section and two small bubbles that haven't burst yet. Since the '02 is just a driver I don't intend to fix this until/unless it gets really bad.

There's an '02 SS hardtop that I've had my eye on buying, but this issue is one of the reasons I don't want to buy the car. Being an '02, it's almost a certainty that it'll eventually have this problem, and I'd hate to deal with trying to make the car perfect again after a repair like this considering it's a 5k mile show car.

Stupid glue. Seems like GM got cheaper and cheaper as the model years worn on with these cars. Since buying my '02, I've really gone over it from end to end comparaing all the little differences from my '98 to the '02, and I've found a bunch of little detail stuff that GM cheapened out on by '02. It's sad really.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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I was wondering if they dealership would still fix this issue, the cars got less than 60k miles and is in excellent condition. If not, I bought the extended warrenty with my new SS that suppoedly covers everything but tires, breaks, and hoses. It should cover this roof problem correct?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
I have never personally seen a '98 with this issue, and only a few people here have posted about having the issue with their '98. My guess is that the change-over in adhesive must've happened right at the end of the '98 model year and some late build date '98s got the newer, problematic '99+ glue.

My '98 is a 3/98 built car, making it just a few months shy of 10 years old. There is not a single bubble or wave anywhere in the roof paint. The car is garage kept under a cover most of the time as it is a show car, but when I do take the car out it's usually a hot, sunny summer day with hot temps. It often sits in full sun for 6-8 hours at car show events, etc., so it's seen plenty of hot days in the sun. But still no bubbles. If it hasn't happened in 10 years, I doubt it's going to happen ever.

On the other side of things, my '02 does have the issue. It's only got one small wavy section and two small bubbles that haven't burst yet. Since the '02 is just a driver I don't intend to fix this until/unless it gets really bad.

There's an '02 SS hardtop that I've had my eye on buying, but this issue is one of the reasons I don't want to buy the car. Being an '02, it's almost a certainty that it'll eventually have this problem, and I'd hate to deal with trying to make the car perfect again after a repair like this considering it's a 5k mile show car.

Stupid glue. Seems like GM got cheaper and cheaper as the model years worn on with these cars. Since buying my '02, I've really gone over it from end to end comparaing all the little differences from my '98 to the '02, and I've found a bunch of little detail stuff that GM cheapened out on by '02. It's sad really.

i have a 52xxx mile 98 z that has this problem pretty bad!....it SUUUCKS it looks like crap
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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i have a 52xxx mile 98 z that has this problem pretty bad!....it SUUUCKS it looks like crap
What is your build date?

Sticker on your driver's door jamb should tell this. Should be in MM/YY format (mine is 03/98).

I bet yours was a late '98 car. Like May, June, July of '98.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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We just picked up a low mileage 2000 WS.6 and its got this problem, but our 2002 with 55k isnt showing a bit, the paint is perfect.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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We just picked up a low mileage 2000 WS.6 and its got this problem, but our 2002 with 55k isnt showing a bit, the paint is perfect.
When I read stuff like this, I begin to wonder if GM was using multiple suppliers for the glue in later years. Maybe there was a slight difference in the strenght from one manufacturer to the next, resulting in some that never get the issue, no matter how much sun/heat they see, or how old they get.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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I read in a mag, dont remember if it was GM or Pontiac Performance, that the issue could be fixed if a sealer was used in the process of prepping for paint. Is this true?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Anybody know the cost of this out of pocket?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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For my hardtop I was quoted from a couple places between $2,000-2,300.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by liquidsmooth
Anybody know the cost of this out of pocket?
Read the thread. I posted this information in it a few times.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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Got it done. As soon as i get back to Hawaii i drop the car off.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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i have that **** on my 2000 and it sucks, i think u will have to peel that crap off and reapply but i really dont know
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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I just gave chevy a call at their 1800 number and the lady couldnt find any service bulletin or anything on this issue???IS IT TO LATEEEE?!

I also called a dealership and none of the service numbers rang up from this thread..
(01 ss,56,000 miles)
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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I just gave chevy a call at their 1800 number and the lady couldnt find any service bulletin or anything on this issue???IS IT TO LATEEEE?!

I also called a dealership and none of the service numbers rang up from this thread..
(01 ss,56,000 miles)
Well your supposed to have a printed out copy of the tsb to show them but yes it's too late. Your car is way out of warranty.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jattgunman
I just gave chevy a call at their 1800 number and the lady couldnt find any service bulletin or anything on this issue???IS IT TO LATEEEE?!

I also called a dealership and none of the service numbers rang up from this thread..
(01 ss,56,000 miles)
Dude id keep pushing GM to at least look at the car. They said no at first but i kept calling every 3 days and buggin them. So they looked at the t/a and then said yes. I even told the rep to read up on this very thread and he didnt like what he read on how many people were pissed at GM for this issue. Letters to the BBB and news papers dont hurt neather. With only 56k on a 01 is low and is very very well kept. And are you the first owner of the car?

Know one should never give up on this and some have gone half to get it fixed.

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jattgunman
I just gave chevy a call at their 1800 number and the lady couldnt find any service bulletin or anything on this issue???IS IT TO LATEEEE?!

I also called a dealership and none of the service numbers rang up from this thread..
(01 ss,56,000 miles)
definately keep pushing i drop off my 02 Z28 with just under 60k at the dealership this week.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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I'm getting mine looked at i'm so excited. It would be mint if not for this, and it's not my fault this problem is happening. Why should we be responsible for a defective product?

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Someone should be contacting you this week. They probably will want to inspect it and then advise what we can do to help...



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The people at GM are very nice, you just have to get past the local GM dealership clowns. Mine is completely unmodded and under 60k miles though as well as garage kept. Make sure they know this and about the issue, I had the tsb and freebie work 2001somws.6 had put on the page and sent it all in together. I doubt they'll take a look at higher mileage vehicles however. My 2000 just started showing the issue 8 years later because it was garage kept and so well maintained before I bought it.

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