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Bubbling Sail Panel Issue for Dummies
Staging Lane
Joined: Apr 2007
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Okay.. so my 99 SS is having these problems.
I printed out the GM TSB, wrote down a few case #'s.
what are the chances of them fixing my vehicle? it's only spent 1 year outdoors. 99 with 70k miles. mint condition other than that roof.
too little to late i'd imagine? I should have checked this forum years ago.
I printed out the GM TSB, wrote down a few case #'s.
what are the chances of them fixing my vehicle? it's only spent 1 year outdoors. 99 with 70k miles. mint condition other than that roof.
too little to late i'd imagine? I should have checked this forum years ago.
Okay.. so my 99 SS is having these problems.
I printed out the GM TSB, wrote down a few case #'s.
what are the chances of them fixing my vehicle? it's only spent 1 year outdoors. 99 with 70k miles. mint condition other than that roof.
too little to late i'd imagine? I should have checked this forum years ago.
I printed out the GM TSB, wrote down a few case #'s.
what are the chances of them fixing my vehicle? it's only spent 1 year outdoors. 99 with 70k miles. mint condition other than that roof.
too little to late i'd imagine? I should have checked this forum years ago.
Staging Lane
Joined: Apr 2007
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are going to have a hell of a time getting GM to fix it. I would imagine next to impossible for a car with that age and mileage. The only way you might be able to get this fixed is if you have a dealer that you have bought a few cars from and have service done. Then they MAY do it on a "goodwill" basis. My car is an 02 and had 50k at the time and I had to bring GM to arbitration with Better Business to get them to fix it. I argued under the 6 year, 100k mile rust protection warranty which you are long out of unfortunately.
can't justify spending 1k on such a minor issue.
Teching In
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 7
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My 60k 01 formula has been a garage queen since day 1, so I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, it has more than a few specs and the glue is leaking through the panel in different places. After every time I drive it, I have to wipe it off. I just might go into the dealership tomorrow to see how much they want for a new panel.
My 60k 01 formula has been a garage queen since day 1, so I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, it has more than a few specs and the glue is leaking through the panel in different places. After every time I drive it, I have to wipe it off. I just might go into the dealership tomorrow to see how much they want for a new panel.
I know some people have had the roof replaced for pretty cheap by either finding the roof on eBay or through gmpartsdirect.com and then having a body shop do the work. A dealer is going to be really expensive.
One thing is certain, the dealers don't have an F'ing clue why it is happening. Three different dealers and six different explanations was my experience
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
That was back in the spring of 2008 though. Not sure how long even the nicest of dealers will be willing to cover this on their own.
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Even if I had to pay I'd still get it fixed, unless I didn't plan to keep the car for long.
Teching In
Joined: Feb 2010
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I have a 2001 SS coupe that I purchased new. In 03 I noticed the bubbles. Before I contacted my dealer Classic chevy of Turnersville, I gathered all my info from several sites.
Of course no one there new anything about it.To make a long story short, It took over 6 months to have it resolved. At one point in time they called me in to say my car was finished. They had PUT THE ROOF ON CROOKED. Like wearing a baseball cap to the side.
Two years later bubbles started again. At that point I didn't want to get into it again.
I had a body shop do a spot repair in 06. Fine since. It has been a while but I believe the gm number is tsb 030898001.
Of course no one there new anything about it.To make a long story short, It took over 6 months to have it resolved. At one point in time they called me in to say my car was finished. They had PUT THE ROOF ON CROOKED. Like wearing a baseball cap to the side.
Two years later bubbles started again. At that point I didn't want to get into it again.
I had a body shop do a spot repair in 06. Fine since. It has been a while but I believe the gm number is tsb 030898001.
Staging Lane
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: arlington
its nearly impossible to remove without it breaking into a **** ton of pieces. i wanted to do the same thing thing.
People have tried a variety of different methods do fix the roof. I have never heard of it working, the bubbles have always come back. Good luck removing the panel without destroying it.
Teching In
Joined: Feb 2010
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remove the panel for repair. Salt season is long here in Minnesota so that will
give me a lot of time before I would want to drive the car next spring. My
bodyman friend is a instructor at a community college, and told me that
chemical reactions are a subject of interest to him. I'll post any updates.
Okay, forgive me for not wanting to search through 60 pages of material but what is the part number for the new sail panel for a T-Top car? 2002 WS6 if that matters. Mines not really doing it yet, but it's a low mile, garage kept car. I'd like to get one and store it away just for the future likelyhood that I'll need one. Price that I've read is about $441 plus $91 shipping through GMPartsDirect? Then about another $500 in labor?
Thanks.
EDIT: Alright, I think I found the part #'s
Sail panel # 10254708 Did the price go WAY up on this or what? GMPartsDirect has it listed at $448... Also, can someone verify the part #. They have it listed as a "Lift Off Roof Window" Sounds like a T-Top or something.
Small Triangular pieces which you will need:
Right: 10240164
Left: 10240165
Thanks.
EDIT: Alright, I think I found the part #'s
Sail panel # 10254708 Did the price go WAY up on this or what? GMPartsDirect has it listed at $448... Also, can someone verify the part #. They have it listed as a "Lift Off Roof Window" Sounds like a T-Top or something.
Small Triangular pieces which you will need:
Right: 10240164
Left: 10240165
Last edited by 98RedBird; May 22, 2010 at 01:52 PM.
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
I know the GMPD description looks odd, but those are the right numbers. Not sure if the price has gone up, I was lucky enough to get mine covered by the dealer.
Yes, these are the correct numbers as per the TSB from GM. I have a copy on hand and I just double checked it.
I know the GMPD description looks odd, but those are the right numbers. Not sure if the price has gone up, I was lucky enough to get mine covered by the dealer.
I know the GMPD description looks odd, but those are the right numbers. Not sure if the price has gone up, I was lucky enough to get mine covered by the dealer.
And I don't want to have to go scavenging junk yards when it finally does get bad enough just in case GM discontinues them...
what is the oil **** that comes out of the bubbles? i've tried wetsanding mine down and covering with touch up and it doesn't do anything, they leak oil again as soon i go for a little drive.
It's glue. And you won't fix it by doing any sort of modifications to your current roof. It has to be replaced per the TSB that is in this thread.