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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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I would also like to know this or even where to purchase them from a aftermarket company
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JAY-R
I would also like to know this or even where to purchase them from a aftermarket company
It is a GM part so you know where to go or get one off of a pre 98 4th gen at a salvage yard is the only place to get the panel ...
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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(1) 10254708 PANEL - RF 12.810
(1) 10240164 APPLIQUE - 12.812
(1) 10240165 APPLIQUE - 12.812

03-08-98-001A
INSTALLED NEW PANEL, PAINTED.

This was on the invoice for the repair, 2002 SS.

I posted this before at like #938 but I realize that nobody is going to read one thousand posts to find an answer.

I will put the numbers in a new post, maybe that will make it easier to find in the future.

Good luck to all who still need this done to their cars...
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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The chances of having GM replace anymore of these are slim. You would be best off to buy the panel and replace it in your garage. There was a thread showing how to replace the panel on here some where and he uses an all weather sealant to hold the panel down. Didnt seem to hard and you may even be able to get a panel off of ebay for pretty cheep.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucksbadz
The chances of having GM replace anymore of these are slim. You would be best off to buy the panel and replace it in your garage. There was a thread showing how to replace the panel on here some where and he uses an all weather sealant to hold the panel down. Didnt seem to hard and you may even be able to get a panel off of ebay for pretty cheep.
Here's that thread:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/paint-bod...-yourself.html


Does anyone know where to purchase the sail panel other than the dealer? I have been watching ebay for months and searching the classifieds section here and haven't come up with one. I don't know how it would be possible to get one from a car in a junkyard in one piece.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I had to order mine from GM Parts Direct...I didn't have the time to mess with trying to find one I could salvage
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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ya this sux but a year since i saw the first 2 little bubbles and mine havent gotten any worse yet i guess ill just cross my fingers and hope they dont get worse
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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also how to you salvage a panel without destroying it i thought you had to like rip them off because of the glue?
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1POWER98
no dout 99-02 wtf Gm you know that it was 98-02 i have a 98 ws6 i havent had a problem yet but gm is so ******* cheap and are such ********* to the customers wtf at least theyre steppin up a bit
Crazy how the 93-97's dont seem to have this problem
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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look at this, I'm sure GM pushed our issues under there mat...
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=11747164
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:12 AM
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i called a local dealership about 6 months ago and they said they had no clue what i was talking about...i figured i was fed a load of crap
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by f-bodyguy
i called a local dealership about 6 months ago and they said they had no clue what i was talking about...i figured i was fed a load of crap
yeah and then they explain the difference between a TSB and a recall to you like a hundred times even though you make it clear to them that you know the difference. And no one knows about it like said earlier only 1 technician admitted that corvettes used to come in with the roof problem but Fbodys who cares about those guys. I think im just gonna have do it myself some day
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Been a while since I've posted in this thread. Just wanted to clear something up for people that don't want to read 60 pages (can't blame you).

As for effected model years.....

The TSB calls for '99-'02. This is *mostly* correct. The majority of 1998 model year cars DO NOT develop this issue. To date (and I have looked at/confirmed with MANY '98 owners) I cannot find a single '98 with this issue *except for* 05/98 and 06/98 build date cars. Strangely, in all the cars I've seen, I haven't found a 04/98 built car (was there a strike in '98 that reduced/eliminated production for April?).

What this means to the do-it-yourselfers:

If you want to buy a USED panel, make sure it is from a 03/98 or EARLIER built car. A May or June built '98 is just as likely to have this condition as any '99+ car. I have seen only ONE 05/98 built F-body not have this issue to date, so frankly I do not trust any of the May panels since there is no way of knowing the exact day that the change was made.

Originally Posted by mikey67
*Rant* Drove my car to work today, first really nice day we've had this year. When I walked out to my car after work... Bubbling sail panel paint.

Car is '98 TA with 77k.

I was hoping I wasn't going to have this problem after all these years... I wonder, why now?
Can you please verify your build date for me? It's on the sticker located on the driver's door jamb. It will be in MM/YY format (like 05/98). Please let us know if you can.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 05:54 AM
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I have a 98 with the problem. I'll get the build date when I get home.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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I have a 98 with the problem. I'll get the build date when I get home.
Hmmmmm.....I am psychic....I predict your build date is 05/98!

Haha.... pjb, you may not recall but back in April of '08 you sent me a PM stating that your build month was May of '98.

For any other '98 owners reading this, if you have the problem please post your build month. All the data to date has shown that pre-May cars are fine, but if there's data that shows otherwise I'd like to hear about it. This is also useful to people looking to buy used panels.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Hmmmmm.....I am psychic....I predict your build date is 05/98!

Haha.... pjb, you may not recall but back in April of '08 you sent me a PM stating that your build month was May of '98.

For any other '98 owners reading this, if you have the problem please post your build month. All the data to date has shown that pre-May cars are fine, but if there's data that shows otherwise I'd like to hear about it. This is also useful to people looking to buy used panels.

I thought it sounded familiar!
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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I have a 2001 SS coupe that I purchased new. In 03 I noticed the bubbles. Before I contacted my dealer Classic chevy of Turnersville, I gathered all my info from several sites.
Of course no one there new anything about it.To make a long story short, It took over 6 months to have it resolved. At one point in time they called me in to say my car was finished. They had PUT THE ROOF ON CROOKED. Like wearing a baseball cap to the side.
Two years later bubbles started again. At that point I didn't want to get into it again.
I had a body shop do a spot repair in 06. Fine since. It has been a while but I believe the gm number is tsb 030898001.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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I have a 2001 SS coupe that I purchased new. In 03 I noticed the bubbles. Before I contacted my dealer Classic chevy of Turnersville, I gathered all my info from several sites.
Of course no one there new anything about it.To make a long story short, It took over 6 months to have it resolved. At one point in time they called me in to say my car was finished. They had PUT THE ROOF ON CROOKED. Like wearing a baseball cap to the side.
Two years later bubbles started again. At that point I didn't want to get into it again.
I had a body shop do a spot repair in 06. Fine since. It has been a while but I believe the gm number is tsb 030898001.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by STEELMAN
I have a 2001 SS coupe that I purchased new. In 03 I noticed the bubbles. Before I contacted my dealer Classic chevy of Turnersville, I gathered all my info from several sites.
Of course no one there new anything about it.To make a long story short, It took over 6 months to have it resolved. At one point in time they called me in to say my car was finished. They had PUT THE ROOF ON CROOKED. Like wearing a baseball cap to the side.
Two years later bubbles started again. At that point I didn't want to get into it again.
I had a body shop do a spot repair in 06. Fine since. It has been a while but I believe the gm number is tsb 030898001.
Yeah, GM really fucked us on this one. I had to go through the Better Business Bureau to force them to fix it. I was able to make the argument through the 6yr/100,000 mile warranty for rust protection.

GM had the audacity to call me the day before arbitration and "offer" to change my deductible on my extended warranty from $100 to $0. I told the woman that I would have gladly paid $500 to have it fixed so to basically F off and that I would see them in arbitration.

Long story short, I convinced the arbitrator that GM should be liable. I won, and got it fixed. But now with even the newest 4th gens almost at 10 years old I think you will have a hard time convincing any arbitrator that your paint should be fixed.

I think the reason I won was because the GM rep said that I should have been bringing my car into a GM dealer for service. I asked if that would have prevented the bubbles from forming on my car, and how many Camaro owners that bring their cars in for service have been informed of the problem. He refused to answer the question and so the arbitrator found in my favor.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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i have had the same problem with the paint on my car also, and on the back fender and the dealer is doing nothing about it
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