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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Default FYI: Close gap on TR6, ran lean

Yup.. had my VE about perfect except for some random spark blowout, so I fixed the blowout.

TR6's gapped 35

well, I gapped them to 28, and I went to running rich at idle and LEAN LEAN LEAN in boost.

Spark blowout is GONE... engine is now running like it should just LEAN.. one or two VE adjustments later and its running better than ever.


Just thought I'd drop this out incase someone was having SPARK BLOWOUT issues...
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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spark blowout sucks
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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i know this is an old post but i believe spark blowout should cause the wideband to read lean due to more oxygen in the exhaust
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebens
i know this is an old post but i believe spark blowout should cause the wideband to read lean due to more oxygen in the exhaust
If the spark blew out, the fuel in the chamber would not ignite, thus a rich condition ensues
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport
If the spark blew out, the fuel in the chamber would not ignite, thus a rich condition ensues
When I forgot to plug in one of my coils my wideband showed really lean. The guys on the EfiLive forum told me that it would show lean because no ignition would mean all the oxygen is still there unconsumed and that is what o2 sensors look at.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport
If the spark blew out, the fuel in the chamber would not ignite, thus a rich condition ensues
Please elaborate.. why... why WHY would uncombusted fuel cause a rich oxygen environment??????

Are you an engineer at Diablosport?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebens
When I forgot to plug in one of my coils my wideband showed really lean. The guys on the EfiLive forum told me that it would show lean because no ignition would mean all the oxygen is still there unconsumed and that is what o2 sensors look at.
correct misfires show lean due to unused oxygen in the exhaust.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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Curious, does spark blowout sound like or act like your hitting the rev limiter?
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Yes, there is a difference between raw unburnt fuel (oxygen has not been consumed) and a rich burn (all the oxygen has been consumed and some fuel remains unburnt because there is no oxygen remaining)...

wideband measured lambda (which is defined to be the remaining oxygen proportion).
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What Joe said ^
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by STAR
Curious, does spark blowout sound like or act like your hitting the rev limiter?
Anyone got a response to this?
I've got the same question.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by castellscl
Anyone got a response to this?
I've got the same question.
blow out is not as consistent as the rev limiter, not as fast at coming in and out. you might blow a few sparks out and some might light. kind of like a quick temporary bog

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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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First part of advise is to get rid of those TR6 plugs... Put some NGK 3346 (BR7EF) plugs in it and I would bet it run's even smoother! Non-projected will help with blow out quite a bit and not act like a glow plug in the chamber when cylinder pressure get's high.
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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I doubt you're running lean, rather burning incompletely and spoofing
the wideband. There's such a thing as too little gap, too.
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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I run B8EFS plugs gapped at .032 but I spray.
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Jimmy, what would you consider to be too little gap on a FI application?
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Don't know what the minimum is, but the less kernel energy
the less complete the burn. You have basically a fixed coil
current, gap is voltage hence spark power in the hole. "As
much gap as doesn't blow out" (or failure to jump the gap
at max cylinder pressure) is the best you can do and it goes
downhill from there.

Played any with increasing dwell (volt-seconds, equals
current)?
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Different world I know, but in the import world at high boost it is not uncommon to gap down the plugs to a 26-28. Some guys even go crazy with it and will go down around 22 for 35+ psi.
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