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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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I have an 04+ LS1

H-beam rods, diamond -2cc pistons
edelbrock performer carb intake
proform 750 race carb
MSD 6LS
ATI super dampener, no underdrive
no accesories other than waterpump and alt.
stock 241 heads
PRC dual springs
Pat G spec'd cam: 226/230 .598”/.600” 111LSA +4 advance


here is the potential weak link
crappy ebay shorty headers...., no cats


I was expecting somewhere @ 400whp

I dropped my car off to be tuned and when i called to check they said the car was @ 369-ish whp

that seems low.. thoughts?

could the crappy headers really be losing THAT much?

here is the pic of the exhaust setup...

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Oh, reason for the shorty headers.... as you can see the car is a custom built race car with side exhaust and no long tubes will fit.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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What kind of trans/converter?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 03:16 AM
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What model dyno?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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Trans is a Tremec 3550/TKO, rear end is a 3.50 ford 9"

I am honestly not sure what model dyno they use, i'll find out more today and get/post the graphs when i pick the car up.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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if they used a mustang dyno, then they will see lower results than a dynojet, also because the car is auto it will dyno a little lower than a manual car would
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Car is a 5spd manual, not an Auto... it was done on a dynojet.

I picked the car up today, it runs great, A/F was 12.45 across the board, its just down on power...

We were having problems with the Edelbrock carb manifold, 4 cyl(2 from each side) were WAYYY rich and 2 were WAY lean

I ended up pulling the manifold off, and cutting the divider down about 1.5" to get airflow across both sides, it smoothed the A/F out CONSIDERABLY, but dropped power even more....

only things I can think of are crappy exhaust, and/cam timing, the engine runs great otherwise

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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Well I'm kinda new at this but The a/f ratio at 12.45 isnt to bad but I think it should be leaned out a little more. Also what was the total timing?
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total timing was 26deg i believe
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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usually head/cam setups want to have an afr around 11.5
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fondle
usually head/cam setups want to have an afr around 11.5
Not from anything I've ever seen. Maybe forced induction, but NA, you will make best power between 12.5-13.0:1 A/F ratio on gasoline.
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hmm, usually n/a stock motor cars tune for 13.0, boosted cars tune for around 12, and heads/cam cars tune for 11.5, atleast all the cars i have seen tune for that,
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