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Old 05-24-2010, 11:48 AM
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What does the PCM use to calculate airmass on a HP Tuners 2bar operating system?
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basically MAP, IAT, ECT, and RPM, but I'm not sure if that's what you actually asking about.
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Originally Posted by Frost
basically MAP, IAT, ECT, and RPM, but I'm not sure if that's what you actually asking about.
I am running in the bottom row of my timing table @ 8psi boost and I want to get it back up in the middle. I rescaled my MAF curve which shows it running @1.00 G/CYL @ 8psi but it's not giving me the timing I command. It seems like it's still running in the bottom row but it's plotting higher up in the histogram...

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They are calculated by the VE table, the pid in the scanner is a calculation g/cyl=ve*map/iat just keep in mind the ve table is normalized by a factor to give you a percentage.
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So am I stuck with running in the bottom row of the timing table?
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You likely could adjust the ifr/ve tables so that you are out of the last row.
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Originally Posted by foff667
You likely could adjust the ifr/ve tables so that you are out of the last row.
Of course Trying that now...
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Besides that, if you ran much higher boost, you could scale your injector and airflow settings.

Often a much easier approach is using an AFR spark modifier. Here is an example of how to set that up: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...8&postcount=11
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Originally Posted by Frost
Besides that, if you ran much higher boost, you could scale your injector and airflow settings.

Often a much easier approach is using an AFR spark modifier. Here is an example of how to set that up: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...8&postcount=11
hey quick question, whats my target a/f ratio?
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hey quick question, whats my target a/f ratio?
Your boost is very low (like 3-4 psi for now) so as long as you are under 12, everything is fine. I am just being general because I don't have your file here on this laptop. It seems to me that it was around 11.4-11.6 the day we worked on it, but I don't recall 100%.

If you send me an email ans ask me to check logs and let you know what the deal was on that day, I'll have a look and let you know. I just got back form vacation late this afternoon though, and have about another 300 or so emails to answer to be back up to date.
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Originally Posted by foff667
You likely could adjust the ifr/ve tables so that you are out of the last row.
yep thats what i do with LS1's works a treat
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Originally Posted by Frost
Besides that, if you ran much higher boost, you could scale your injector and airflow settings.

Often a much easier approach is using an AFR spark modifier. Here is an example of how to set that up: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...8&postcount=11
I also use that table for a over-boost protection. I just put in -20 degrees whenever I am commanding 1.4 EQ ratio (or richer). Then I went to the boost enrichment and set the commanded AFR to 1.4 @ 170 KPA & up. If I over boost then it will pull the 20 degrees out hopfully keeping it together...
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Originally Posted by foff667
You likely could adjust the ifr/ve tables so that you are out of the last row.
Set that up last night and it worked great! I took 30% out of the IFR and the VE and now @ 8 psi I am at about 1.00 G/CYL in the timing table.


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