To sum it up in a few words, using Atap is frustrating, EFILive is helpful. Not to mention that Paul guy hangs out here a lot 
AutoTap or EFILive?
AutoTap or EFILive? Ok, I have my LS1 Edit now and have a handle on working it. Now I believe I need something to see what is actually going on with the car. What is the difference between Autotap and EFILive? Which one do I need for Tunning my car. I see that one is a lot less expensive then the other. And both are sold by Autotap. So what is the difference? Why is EFILive so much higher in price? Which one do I really need to work along side my LS1 Edit?
Thanks for your support of EFILive 
But B&B are not about to retire AutoTap. As far as I am aware they are actively developing the AutoTap hardware and software. AutoTap scans ALL OBD II vehicles - and they have scan tools for heavy trucks as well. EFILive is restricted to GM vehicles and specifically the LS1/LS6 systems.
Regards
Paul
But B&B are not about to retire AutoTap. As far as I am aware they are actively developing the AutoTap hardware and software. AutoTap scans ALL OBD II vehicles - and they have scan tools for heavy trucks as well. EFILive is restricted to GM vehicles and specifically the LS1/LS6 systems.
Regards
Paul
The only place AutoTap is better, is if you want to
use it on multiple makes of vehicle. For GM LS1-only
use, EFILive kicks its ***. Faster/wider datalogging
plus being able to push some engine controls (Pro)
sets it apart.
use it on multiple makes of vehicle. For GM LS1-only
use, EFILive kicks its ***. Faster/wider datalogging
plus being able to push some engine controls (Pro)
sets it apart.
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Originally Posted by Texas_WS6
Ok, I have my LS1 Edit now and have a handle on working it. Now I believe I need something to see what is actually going on with the car. What is the difference between Autotap and EFILive? Which one do I need for Tunning my car. I see that one is a lot less expensive then the other. And both are sold by Autotap. So what is the difference? Why is EFILive so much higher in price? Which one do I really need to work along side my LS1 Edit?
joel
I have the V1 interface, and while I can't do any of the pro stuff with it 
it is still head and shoulders above the Autotap software.. I can actually get some work done with it, rather than fighting to keep Atap connected 
it is still head and shoulders above the Autotap software.. I can actually get some work done with it, rather than fighting to keep Atap connected 
Seams like the EFILive is going for around $500 and the Autotap is something like $300 or maybe even less. I can tell you there was at least a $200 difference in price. What got me confused is the same place sells both here in the states and the place that sells them makes the cheaper one. Looked like a conflict of intrest to me. Well, from what I now am hearing of HPTuner, I wish I would have heard of it before I bought my LS1Edit. So far I love my Edit and it has ZERO problems, but it is going to cost me another $500 to be able to do with Edit and EFILive together , compared to what HPtuner is supposed to do by itself. Not to mention the fact that I am locked to one car with Edit. Heck, from what I have been hearing on the HPtuner and its price, I might just buy it instead of EFILive and just dump the edit all together.
I hate to have to be the one to bring it up, but it looks like Edit is going to have to do some serious upgrading if it wants to be able to compete with the new HPTuner program. I see no way Edit can sell once HPTuner is out.
So what do ya'll think? Should I go ahead and order EFILive today or wait for the HPTuner and get it while dumping my edit?
Please do not take me wrong, I love my Edit, but being locked and having to get another setup just to do Live Data is not very competetive compared to what HPTuner is supposed to offer.
I hate to have to be the one to bring it up, but it looks like Edit is going to have to do some serious upgrading if it wants to be able to compete with the new HPTuner program. I see no way Edit can sell once HPTuner is out.
So what do ya'll think? Should I go ahead and order EFILive today or wait for the HPTuner and get it while dumping my edit?
Please do not take me wrong, I love my Edit, but being locked and having to get another setup just to do Live Data is not very competetive compared to what HPTuner is supposed to offer.
Not to mention that Paul guy hangs out here a lot
That "Paul Guy" is the most patient person. Now that I think back to a year
about the dumb questions I was asking him, I'm surprised he even answered, much less answered them all.
That "Paul Guy" is the most patient person. Now that I think back to a year
about the dumb questions I was asking him, I'm surprised he even answered, much less answered them all. 
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efilive is coming out with an upgrade to do tuning as well, with a good upgrade pricing scheme. Might wait until they make you an offer on your old gear for the upgrade.
If i paid $300 for eflive (non pro) then have to pay another $300 for tuning it might not seem hot, but i'll get the uber excellent efilive v6 ( i doubt anyone has come as far as they have on logging/etc) and tuning in one.
Not to knock hptuner, but their logging/diagnostics preview screens seem a little dull in comparison to efilive v6.3.. Its quite amazing how much you can do with live 6.3, and if their tuning is as nicely done as their efilive product, they'll have a weener for sure.
If hptuners logging isn't as fast/good/complete as efilive, i might not be inclined to use their logging.
Hard call but this belongs in a nother thread i think already in this pcm forum.
If i paid $300 for eflive (non pro) then have to pay another $300 for tuning it might not seem hot, but i'll get the uber excellent efilive v6 ( i doubt anyone has come as far as they have on logging/etc) and tuning in one.
Not to knock hptuner, but their logging/diagnostics preview screens seem a little dull in comparison to efilive v6.3.. Its quite amazing how much you can do with live 6.3, and if their tuning is as nicely done as their efilive product, they'll have a weener for sure.
If hptuners logging isn't as fast/good/complete as efilive, i might not be inclined to use their logging.
Hard call but this belongs in a nother thread i think already in this pcm forum.
another efi vote here. i bought v5 pro and was thoroughly impressed to say the least, then i tried out v6 a bit and it just gets better. well worth the 300 i spent in the TR GP last year 
