Does anyone know of any good books that will teach you how to tune vehicle? Are there any that just cover LS based engines?

 

Google Greg Banish.

 

I've read Designing And Tuning High Performance Fuel Injection Systems. It was kind of helpful.

 

Anybody know of anything else?

 

master efi tuner by Dan maslic is supposed to be very good, but it's currently out of print. check out his website, www.masterenginetuner.com
there is a lot of good info from his book on the website, definitely worth a look

 

and here is one morehttp://www.lasotaracing.com/MOHPGMTuningGuideSALE.html

 

Thanks Mike. I'll check it out.

 

The books n videos are a joke! Just get hp tuners and explore with it.

 

That is a very very good book.

 

I've started reading through it. It looks like it has a lot of info in it.

 

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Seriously, Ive collected only bits and pieces from any one given source on tuning. Just start logging and learn yourself. DEFINITELY does NOT happen over night. What works for 500,000 other people will NOT work for you. No sarcasm here either.

 

I have EFI Live. Had it for a while. Looks like people have gone away from it to HP Tuners.

 

Have you looked at these threads on the EFILive forum:
- Summary thread (has a fueling cheat sheet/summary);
- Calc.VET thread (introduces some newer stuff and ties together concepts and howto).

 

Calibrated Success is great and teaches you the science of what's happening. The Tuning School has learn @ home courses that walk you through it step by step. So the first is the why and the later is the how.

 

Nice summary, very well stated. I've been thru most of the material mentioned here, attended a Tuning School class as well. The tunning school classroom left me disappointed, I wrote them my concerns & never heard back. It was suppose to be a blend of basic & advanced, weighted towards advanced. There were students that had not installed the software bad for them & bad for the ones that were comfortable operating the software.

The book that disappointed me was the lasotaracing, it's like a jump on the band wagon & capitalize.

Greg's & Dan's books are very good, I hope to able to attend one Greg's session's in the future. I would describe Dan's book's as a blend of why & how.

 

Thanks ctd! So you attended a live seminar?

 

If I may be so bold as to offer a suggestion or two. I am far from any kind of master tuner, in fact I don't offer to tune anyone outside of my own cars and very close friends, and even then I suggest having a "pro tuner" perform their work. That said however, I have tuned several applications (mostly Honda 4-bangers) over the last decade or so, and yes I've tinkered and tuned my own LS's at various points.

First and most importantly invest the time and effort to develop a deeper understanding of what happens inside an internal combustion engine. And I'm not talking about the most rudimentary 'suck, squish, bang, blow' stuff, I'm talking about flame front propagation and what affects it's speeds, volumetric efficiencies, what is and how knock occurs, MBT etc.. I'm a firm believer that the more you truly understand a subject, the far easier it becomes to visualize the effects your changes make vs your end-goal. Too many people talk about or have adopted the idea that EFI tuning is a black magic, it isn't. It just takes the right amount of knowledge, research, reading and in my own humble opinion, hand-on experience to really get a good foot hold of the subject.

If you have the means, spend the $$ and have an experienced tuner perform their work on your car and then ASK QUESTIONS! There is no better source of knowledge than those who have tons of it under their own belts (provided they are the type who are willing to talk & share info). I've been very fortunate to deal with Jeremy Formato who has taken the time to tune several of my engine combinations, and more importantly, he's taken the time to explain concepts and their applications freely to me when I've asked. That type of information is priceless imo.

Good luck!

 

I went to the web site but is no contact us link to ask for the book. Now is ton of information in that website. Is any other place to order that book?

 

Amazon lists it as unavailable so it may be currently out of print.