1999 Camaro SS cooling fans inop
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1999 Camaro SS cooling fans inop
1999 Camaro LS1 turbo cooling fans stopped working after being parked for 2 weekends while replacing oil pump. Car has 40,000 miles and 1 year old Derale 16925 fans wired into the factory pcm controlled fan wiring, and the connections are not loose or corroded.
I have a cooling temp sensor reading with 5v input into the sensor. Any idea what the resistance across a good sensor should be so i can check that?
I have not been able to get any voltage to the #3 fan circuit (which if i understand correctly controls circuits 1 and 2). Does the car need to be hot and have the PCM sending signal to the circuit to get any voltage? I was checking across pin 30 to 87a and 87 on the relay inputs while the car was cold, key on and was showing no voltage.
The same day after I realized the fans were not working and the car overheated I got check engine lights for:
P0103-Mass air flow (MAF) sensor/volume air flow (VAF) sensor high input - no MAF on vehicle, should have been deleted out by tuner as vehicle is speed density now. No CEL previously.
P0405-Exhaust Gas Recirculation Sensor Circuit A Low - No egr system on car, should have been deleted out by tuner. Never had a CEL before.
P0480-Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit - may have been because I unwittingly put a 5 pin relay in a 4 pin and a 4 pin in a 5 pin. oops.
P0481-Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit - may have been because I unwittingly put a 5 pin relay in a 4 pin and a 4 pin in a 5 pin. oops.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated as I am getting ready to road trip this car to Alaska. Thanks Obama? Is that still a thing?
I have a cooling temp sensor reading with 5v input into the sensor. Any idea what the resistance across a good sensor should be so i can check that?
I have not been able to get any voltage to the #3 fan circuit (which if i understand correctly controls circuits 1 and 2). Does the car need to be hot and have the PCM sending signal to the circuit to get any voltage? I was checking across pin 30 to 87a and 87 on the relay inputs while the car was cold, key on and was showing no voltage.
The same day after I realized the fans were not working and the car overheated I got check engine lights for:
P0103-Mass air flow (MAF) sensor/volume air flow (VAF) sensor high input - no MAF on vehicle, should have been deleted out by tuner as vehicle is speed density now. No CEL previously.
P0405-Exhaust Gas Recirculation Sensor Circuit A Low - No egr system on car, should have been deleted out by tuner. Never had a CEL before.
P0480-Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit - may have been because I unwittingly put a 5 pin relay in a 4 pin and a 4 pin in a 5 pin. oops.
P0481-Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit - may have been because I unwittingly put a 5 pin relay in a 4 pin and a 4 pin in a 5 pin. oops.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated as I am getting ready to road trip this car to Alaska. Thanks Obama? Is that still a thing?
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I have 12v at the 40A fuse.
I've got no power to the 10 A mini fuse underhood
with key on. I probed the B8 and C10 on the cooling fan 3 relay circuit ( 85 and 86 slots for the relay) nothing. Go to the red pcm harness, probe both sides of pin 33, a dark blue wire, voltage reads 0. Any suggestions on what to do next?
I've got no power to the 10 A mini fuse underhood
with key on. I probed the B8 and C10 on the cooling fan 3 relay circuit ( 85 and 86 slots for the relay) nothing. Go to the red pcm harness, probe both sides of pin 33, a dark blue wire, voltage reads 0. Any suggestions on what to do next?
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I have 12v at the 40A fuse.
I've got no power to the 10 A mini fuse underhood
with key on. I probed the B8 and C10 on the cooling fan 3 relay circuit ( 85 and 86 slots for the relay) nothing. Go to the red pcm harness, probe both sides of pin 33, a dark blue wire, voltage reads 0. Any suggestions on what to do next?
I've got no power to the 10 A mini fuse underhood
with key on. I probed the B8 and C10 on the cooling fan 3 relay circuit ( 85 and 86 slots for the relay) nothing. Go to the red pcm harness, probe both sides of pin 33, a dark blue wire, voltage reads 0. Any suggestions on what to do next?
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Might need a new PCM now Will keep updating.
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Dealer Service Managers are typically dumb asses about working on vehicles They know how to write up service work orders and assign jobs to mechanics. How is a coolant temp sensor that has 2 terminals that go straight to the PCM going to keep 12V from getting to a fuse in the fuse box. Going by this you must have an open between the fan maxi fuse and the fan mini fuse.
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Dealer Service Managers are typically dumb asses about working on vehicles They know how to write up service work orders and assign jobs to mechanics. How is a coolant temp sensor that has 2 terminals that go straight to the PCM going to keep 12V from getting to a fuse in the fuse box. Going by this you must have an open between the fan maxi fuse and the fan mini fuse.
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So yeah, the sensor fixed. The fuse had blown without me noticing, that's why the fans did not come on after i replaced the sensor. Don't I feel stupid.
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