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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 06:11 PM
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Please bear with me as I'm still a newbie when it comes to the tuning stuff. Just a quick prologue, I bought this 1999 Camaro with a bunch of issues to include an engine on the brink of catastrophic failure. I fixed the major mechanical issues by swapping in a 4.8L with a small cam, 80lbs/hr injectors, 3bar MAP, and a Huron T4 turbo kit. The trans is a 4l60e with a unknown brand 3000 stall converter.

I'm finally at the point to start on a basemap, so I put in the battery, power up the ECM, and read the tune. The computer calibration has been modified to a Speed Density OS and fortunately it hasn't been tuner locked (as far as I can tell). The problem is that when I open the OS window, it's blank.



From searching the HP Tuner forum and this forum, it looks like my best option is to reflash the ECU with a Tech 2and I should have the option to use a 3 bar Speed Density OS. Is this correct?

I also have a spare ECM but it has a different VIN, which from what I've read, would eat up a bunch of credits to change. I'll plan to keep this option as a last resort.

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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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It says in your pic it is locked???

if so instead of trying the tech 2 why not bypass it with PeteS160's way. He has a video. Ill find it for you. 1 sec.


https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning/1897169-99-07-ls-24x-pcm-diy-tuner-lock-bypass.html
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It says in your pic it is locked???

if so instead of trying the tech 2 why not bypass it with PeteS160's way. He has a video. Ill find it for you. 1 sec.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...ck-bypass.html
As I understand it, the "OS Mod Lock" is different than a "Tuner Lock". If it were "Tuner Locked", I wouldn't be able to read the file or even make changes, but I am able to do both. When you upgrade the OS, the other OS options become unavailable and the ECM is "OS Mod Locked". In order to get a 3 bar OS, I have to start with an un-enhanced tune file and stock OS.

I have heard some say that a Tech 2 reflash will work, and others say that it won't. If that doesn't work, I'm considering loading the tune from the spare ECM and seeing if that will work.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 08:19 PM
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Make sure your in advance mode in HPT
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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Make sure your in advance mode in HPT
Thanks for the advice, but that was one of the first things I made sure to do. It's in advanced mode, but still no luck.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 08:36 PM
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Swapping pcm should be best would only use up 2 credits then. When I swap my to a different pcm I only used 2 credits to licence it no matter the vin.
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The Operating system window is blank because it has been updated to a custom OS.

You cant use that tune as-is to convert to a 2 Bar or 3 bar. It looks to have been modded to a 1 bar SD RTT tune.
OS Mod lock means it has been converted to a custom OS and you can't mod to a different custom OS
Not the same thing as a tunerlock.

You will have to start with a fresh non-custom OS

A Tech 2 reflash to stock will work.. Use your right VIN number when you do so (so the Tech 2 loads the right setup for the car), then you should be able to read it back with HPT and convert to a 3 Bar without killing any more credits as long as it has been licensed to your cable already.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 08:43 PM
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The pcm has a rtt 1 bar OS as said above.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by soloman369
Swapping pcm should be best would only use up 2 credits then. When I swap my to a different pcm I only used 2 credits to licence it no matter the vin.
I might try that. I read somewhere that I would eat up 2 credits for each VIN, then still have to spend another for the OS upgrade. Of course, now I can't find where I read it. I'm almost in **** it mode anyways.

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The Operating system window is blank because it has been updated to a custom OS.

You cant use that tune as-is to convert to a 2 Bar or 3 bar. It looks to have been modded to a 1 bar SD RTT tune.
OS Mod lock means it has been converted to a custom OS and you can't mod to a different custom OS
Not the same thing as a tunerlock.

You will have to start with a fresh non-custom OS

A Tech 2 reflash to stock will work.. Use your right VIN number when you do so (so the Tech 2 loads the right setup for the car), then you should be able to read it back with HPT and convert to a 3 Bar without killing any more credits as long as it has been licensed to your cable already.
Thanks. That's pretty much what I gathered reading off the HP Tuners forum, but I was seeing different opinions on the solutions. After reading this:

https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...15-Enhanced-OS

I'm wondering if it's best just to pull the file from my other F-body, which I've licensed, and write it onto the Camaro ECM. Should only cost me 2 credits to license it to the Camaro and 2 more to convert to 3 bar, right? I'm not trying to be a broke dick and save 2 credits, but I don't like to waste money either.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 09:48 PM
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there is no additional credits to upgrade the OS anymore. That was nulled about a year ago IIRC. All you have to do is pull the file from your other F body, and do a write entire on the vehicle you are currently trying to tune. You will have to license the current file however for a total of 2 credits spent.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 10:13 PM
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Couldnt u download a stock fbody tune file from the tune repository tht matches your year model. Thin use the segment swapper to flash back to a stock system. Thin write entire and start over from scratch. I think this should be possible.
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by subeone
there is no additional credits to upgrade the OS anymore. That was nulled about a year ago IIRC. All you have to do is pull the file from your other F body, and do a write entire on the vehicle you are currently trying to tune. You will have to license the current file however for a total of 2 credits spent.
Thanks, you're right about that.

I ended up using the tune file from my 2000 Firebird, chose "write entire", and successfully wrote it to the Camaro PCM. I even read it back to make sure. That was 2 credits.

The Camaro ECM stored the Firebird VIN, so I used Edit>Change VIN Wizard and got the VIN changed back. That was another 2 credits though.



At least the OS change was free. Thanks again for that piece of advice.
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because the OS is custom, that shouldnt be possible AFAIK.

@kcs, glad you got it. I could have showed you a trick to bypass the 2 credits spent, but I don't want to get banned if an HPtuners rep sees this .
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Originally Posted by subeone
@kcs, glad you got it. I could have showed you a trick to bypass the 2 credits spent, but I don't want to get banned if an HPtuners rep sees this .
I’ll keep you in mind if I ever have to replace an ECM and need the VIN chaned. Thanks for your help though.
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