PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

4l80e always reads -38

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-2018, 04:19 PM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 4l80e always reads -38

I have a 99 4l80e and its been reading -38 all the time I already replaced the sensor what can this be??
Old 09-10-2018, 06:57 PM
  #2  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

-38 what? fluid temp? is the 80e native to your vehicle or is it a swap, altered harness? it could be wired wrong.
Old 09-10-2018, 07:25 PM
  #3  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by truckdoug
-38 what? fluid temp? is the 80e native to your vehicle or is it a swap, altered harness? it could be wired wrong.
Yeah its swap I did the sloppy mechanics 4l80e harness modification and blew up the first 4l80e which had trans temp working put this one in and hasn't been working
Old 09-10-2018, 08:14 PM
  #4  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (47)
 
rpturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: A-Town, Ill side
Posts: 2,362
Received 195 Likes on 162 Posts

Default

What exactly is "blew up the first 4l80e?" Less is not more when asking for help
Old 09-10-2018, 08:19 PM
  #5  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Haha its a turbo 5.3, the transmission wouldn't shift anymore after some pulls
Old 09-10-2018, 08:36 PM
  #6  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

is the internal trans harness wired as before?
Old 09-10-2018, 08:43 PM
  #7  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What do you mean?
Old 09-13-2018, 06:12 PM
  #8  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Still reading -38 any ideas why
Old 09-13-2018, 08:52 PM
  #9  
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
Darth_V8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: My own internal universe
Posts: 10,446
Received 1,836 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Default

-38 DA? -38 degrees latitude? -38 dollars in checking account?
Old 09-13-2018, 08:59 PM
  #10  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,879
Received 3,024 Likes on 2,355 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
-38 DA? -38 degrees latitude? -38 dollars in checking account?
And here I thought I was the only one in the dark...
Old 09-13-2018, 10:34 PM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
-38 dollars in checking account?

he said he's got an 80e, not a 60e
Old 09-13-2018, 11:01 PM
  #12  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,879
Received 3,024 Likes on 2,355 Posts
Default

No mention in this thread of a 4L60E....
Old 09-13-2018, 11:18 PM
  #13  
TECH Addict
 
pdxmotorhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX-OR-USA
Posts: 2,497
Received 475 Likes on 365 Posts
Default

Well it evens out,, there is no real problem description either.. LOL
So I'll say -38 is way off... should be more like +237
Old 09-14-2018, 01:05 AM
  #14  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Come on what else is -38 obviously temp, you guys gotta be kidding if you don't know just don't reply don't try to be smart or funny, i felt it was pretty obvious what i meant
Old 09-14-2018, 10:23 AM
  #15  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,879
Received 3,024 Likes on 2,355 Posts
Default

-38 is WAAAAY below freezing. So it ain't temp, dude.
Old 09-14-2018, 11:46 AM
  #16  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

the trans fluid temp pressure modifier table goes down that for guys that live in canada.

its a resistive sensor so you need to verify it's getting the 5v it needs and the return signal is going to the right pin on the pcm. missing either will make it read -38 temp. I went thru this with the older 80e I use in my turbo truck. my fix was to delete the trans temps sensor DTCs
Old 09-14-2018, 12:30 PM
  #17  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oh so does urs still read like that? And yeah its getting 5v
Old 09-14-2018, 12:53 PM
  #18  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

No, I can't log anything at all. It wont come up in channels. There is nowhere for it to acquire data.

I only did that so my trans tune segment would not try and adjust shift pressures for it being cold as ***** (technical term for -38ºF)

What is the output from the sensor reading in voltage? probably somewhere in the 2-2.5v range at like 80º --just a guess.

If the sensor is getting 5v and you're getting an output voltage then the problem lies in the signal return to the pcm. Either the trans pinout is wrong or a connection isn't being made somewhere.

I'm not sure what pin gets the temp signal...you'd have to look on lt1swap.com for that probably
Old 09-14-2018, 01:46 PM
  #19  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Crysis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oh ok ill check that this weekend thanks
Old 09-14-2018, 02:04 PM
  #20  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
truckdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 6,330
Received 526 Likes on 356 Posts

Default

word let us know how it turns out. we love a good mystery.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 PM.