PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Hp tuner without pro

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 13, 2019 | 07:45 PM
  #1  
epfatboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 595
Likes: 40
Default Hp tuner without pro

I have a basic HP Tuner MPVI, wondering if I should use the AC high pressure lead to monitor AFR or if I should find a used MPVI PRO....

Not sure how big of a hassle using the AC wire is?
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 02:33 AM
  #2  
Lethalwx69's Avatar
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 74
Likes: 1
Default

If your wideband has a serial out, you could use that.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 06:28 AM
  #3  
epfatboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 595
Likes: 40
Default

I have a Innovate MTX-L.so I have a serial port and 2 outputs.

I'd like to have the AFR info displayed thru the HP Scanner software. Pretty sure I'd need to wire the gauge output to an ECM input. I have seen a few posts where folks use the AC pressure wire and configure this pid to report AFR.

Just wanted to hear from some folks on this option versus having MPVI Pro
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 06:34 AM
  #4  
JoeNova's Avatar
Restricted User
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 7,192
Likes: 109
From: Ohio
Default

If you only use it for your own car, standard.
If you use it to tune other peoples' cars, Pro.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 02:43 PM
  #5  
LSX Power Tuning's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,367
Likes: 26
From: Brenham TX
Default

If your wideband has serial out, you connect it to your laptop through a serial to usb converter and plug it into a second usb port and your wideband will be in hpt.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 05:41 PM
  #6  
epfatboy's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 595
Likes: 40
Default

Originally Posted by LSX Power Tuning
If your wideband has serial out, you connect it to your laptop through a serial to usb converter and plug it into a second usb port and your wideband will be in hpt.

Okay, that is too easy so I googled it and here we go... many more just like this writeup as well.
https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...gh-Serial-port

So I guess I'm curious why anyone would want a PRO and why there are so many write ups to use an existing wire like AC pressure?
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2019 | 06:33 PM
  #7  
LSX Power Tuning's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,367
Likes: 26
From: Brenham TX
Default

We have been using serial widebands since mid 2000's with efi live and last couple years with hp tuners when they released it. We wont even do email or remote tunes any longer with egr or ac connected widebands.

Not all widebands have serial out, the pro also allow you log fuel pressure, bottle pressure or anything 0-5v for the most part. The pro will also unlock other features in the future.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2019 | 12:18 PM
  #8  
Suncc49's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 487
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by epfatboy
Okay, that is too easy so I googled it and here we go... many more just like this writeup as well.
https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...gh-Serial-port

So I guess I'm curious why anyone would want a PRO and why there are so many write ups to use an existing wire like AC pressure?
The old pro could do standalone datalogging with no laptop open, which was nice for many tracks that wouldn't allow people to do it... also you can run temp wiring for analog inputs while tuning or permanent ones for wideband / pressure transducer of your own choice...
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 18, 2019 | 03:33 PM
  #9  
llafro's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: Glendale, CA
Default

I'm using the AC pressure sensor PID to input the wideband data on my car. I have a single pole, double throw switch wired into the AC pressure wiring that allows it to either function as normal or to become the wideband input. It takes a bit of calculation to get it to work. I have a math parameter set up that will take the voltage signal from the wideband and convert it into AFR, as well as a wideband error configuration that shows how far off things are from the PCM's commanded AFR.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE