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Old 04-08-2021, 10:11 AM
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I'm converting a 99 Camaro from V6 to a V8 and I have the 411 ECM from the 99 Camaro and another one from a 00 Z28 M6 car which I'm planning to use for the swap. Is there a way to transfer the VIN# from the V6 ECM to the V8 ECM? I do not want issues with trying to get the car inspected due to non matching VIN#s
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I can put the V6 VIN in the V8 411 pcm.
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Thanks! I'll will keep you in mind. The car is coming along ever so slowly and it's sure nice to know that when the time comes I can get this done. Gonna be on a E85 as a base fuel and then NOS with a dedicated but not sure on what fuel I should go with for this.
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You cant do it with HP Tuners... I lost two credits trying.

Steve Williams (aka Frost) sent me a very detailed message after doing a P01 (0411) mail order to get my v6 to v8 swap up and running.

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At some point you will likely want this gone over in person. After I tuned it,
I used a tool to force the VIN to your V6 VIN that matches the truck. This will be a
problem for many tuners in the future. Print or forward this email to them and it
will explain and tell them how to be able to work with this. Normally, if a
controller like yours is setup for a 5.3/6.0/whatever, it CANNOT contain a V6 VIN
since there is no V8 matching software for this VIN, only V6. You cannot flash the
controller with a file from a V8 that has a V6 VIN in it, but what *I* can do is to
to flash it with the V8 VIn and tune it, and THEN use a different tool to change the
VIN after the fact. That let's me match it up to your truck.
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You cant do it with HP Tuners... I lost two credits trying.

Steve Williams (aka Frost) sent me a very detailed message after doing a P01 (0411) mail order to get my v6 to v8 swap up and running.

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That is all correct. I do not use hp tuners to change the vin.
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Originally Posted by RedXray
You cant do it with HP Tuners... I lost two credits trying.

Steve Williams (aka Frost) sent me a very detailed message after doing a P01 (0411) mail order to get my v6 to v8 swap up and running.

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This is an HP Tuners issue, not a PCM one. EFI Live, Tuner Cat, and I'm pretty sure even LS Droid and PC Hammer, will all do VIN / OS mis-match tunes
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You can tune it with hp tuners its just going to cost 2 more credits when its a vin os mismatch.
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The only time the VIN will matter is if VATS is enabled and trying to verify with the BCM. otherwise if you really want a LS1 factory flash, I can do that at no cost. You just have to pay shipping both ways to Ky. I can flash a factory tune in it from an LS1 car. The VIN will not be yours, just a random LS1 car I have on file.
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I do this often with LSDroid. I put an 0411 ECU and used a later OS in my 2000 car after my ECU died. HPTuners panicked with an OS/VIN mismatch when using my factory VIN. So my tune is written for an 02 Camaro and after I flash my tune, I use LSDroid to apply the correct VIN. Already passed inspection twice with this method.
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