First time user with HPTUNERS
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First time user with HPTUNERS gonna buy it soon.
just wondering how difficult it is to use by someone who knows fxck all about tuning.
does it like come with instructions or something? haha
just wondering how difficult it is to use by someone who knows fxck all about tuning.
does it like come with instructions or something? haha
It's not that hard to learn, you just gotta read the forums. Actually using hptuners will help you learn more than anything else. Reading the forums confused the hell out of me until i actually started using the program.
You don't "need it", need it. But if you want certainty
about your WOT mixture it's the only tool for the job.
I found I was way off the mark once I got mine. You
might be able to borrow somebody else's, they are
not license-locked and most people use theirs pretty
sporadically once they get their combo figured out.
There's plenty you can do without it, and other ways
to tune around it (like just going by your 40-80 times
from the logger, and methodically optimizing to the end
result rather than its chemical signature). But it's a
quite handy shortcut to the likeliest max power point.
And more of a necessity once you start doing stuff like
nitrous or boost where your mixture is more of a life
and death deal (for the motor).
about your WOT mixture it's the only tool for the job.
I found I was way off the mark once I got mine. You
might be able to borrow somebody else's, they are
not license-locked and most people use theirs pretty
sporadically once they get their combo figured out.
There's plenty you can do without it, and other ways
to tune around it (like just going by your 40-80 times
from the logger, and methodically optimizing to the end
result rather than its chemical signature). But it's a
quite handy shortcut to the likeliest max power point.
And more of a necessity once you start doing stuff like
nitrous or boost where your mixture is more of a life
and death deal (for the motor).
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no it does not. If you think your motor can sustain an oopsie like 14:1 at wot , think again, the motor will self-terminate. To error on the side of rich is a luxury that may only lose you power. If you spray the hose, you need a wideband.
The LM-1 is a POS (no debates here). I've had to replace a few sensors and the unit itself. i question its reliability. I have an old lambdaboy NTK-sensor system, which i've fried too but what was probably dragging the cable on the ground at 100+mph lol. It sends faster signal changes, and has more accuracy (i do boosted tuning on vw so i need to have accurate fuel to 9:1 lol).
So no you don't need it, but you need a dyno and hope your o2's are good nuff for street, but yeah you need a good wideband for the "NEXT" cable version, not this buy today version but the next version and i'm pretty sure it costs more?
The LM-1 is a POS (no debates here). I've had to replace a few sensors and the unit itself. i question its reliability. I have an old lambdaboy NTK-sensor system, which i've fried too but what was probably dragging the cable on the ground at 100+mph lol. It sends faster signal changes, and has more accuracy (i do boosted tuning on vw so i need to have accurate fuel to 9:1 lol).
So no you don't need it, but you need a dyno and hope your o2's are good nuff for street, but yeah you need a good wideband for the "NEXT" cable version, not this buy today version but the next version and i'm pretty sure it costs more?
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