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Old 11-18-2004, 11:17 PM
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im definitly interested once they come to market.
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Originally Posted by ataylors
From the info I have:
"The XX is a complete wideband controller built into a sealed cable. ....includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs...

Cool. To bad I already bought my DynoJet wide band.
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at the end of the cable (the end that goes into the EIO for HPT) wtf is that??? I can't tell it looks like unraveled wires??? lol I would hope that it's a connector of some sort???

Has this been tested with HPT at all yet??? Or is it still just in concept? Can you PM with a link for more info or provide it yourself??? Thanks!

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Old 11-19-2004, 02:58 AM
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Would this be somethiing that could also be wired up to a digital guage, say for the pillar, as well as be able to be hooked up to HP tuner for logging at the same time?
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I think i am calling a BS a alert here.
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What you are looking at is this unit:



Innovate has reconfigured the board to be housed in a small box at the end of the cable.

Andrew

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Old 11-19-2004, 09:31 AM
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I think this sensor will still need the 12V high current
heater / temperature controller feed and won't just be
"screw down two signal wires".

Anyone know if it's supposed to sell for significantly
cheaper than the $314 I got my LM-1 for? It damn well
ought to be.

But I still do like having the WBO2 be standalone-useful
which this appears, not.
Old 11-19-2004, 09:37 AM
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it is going to retail for $200
It is all the same as the LM-1
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Originally Posted by monodax
I would highly recommend the new TechEdge 2C0 system. It is very inexpensive and does exactly what is needed to feed HP Tuners. It is based on the 2A-B0 Architecture Minus the internal memory for logging without a PC.
Monodax was wondering if there was a price for the 2co?

I have the Tech Edge 2A0 and was wondering if i could remove one of my stock o2 and put the wb in and use the Simulated narrowband output to give the pcm the readings for that bank?

I was also wondering if you know what the button on the side of the LD01 display is for,ive looked on the web site but have found nothing.all it seems to do is dim the display while the button is held in.

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Originally Posted by Holden LS1 Tonner
Monodax was wondering if there was a price for the 2co?

I have the Tech Edge 2A0 and was wondering if i could remove one of my stock o2 and put the wb in and use the Simulated narrowband output to give the pcm the readings for that bank?

I was also wondering if you know what the button on the side of the LD01 display is for,ive looked on the web site but have found nothing.all it seems to do is dim the display while the button is held in.
You can replace 1 or your Narrowbands if you wanted as most of the Widebands including the 2A0 only have 1 narrowband output. I haven't personally done this but you could as long as you ensure that your narrowband O2 millivolts are within the A/F range of your stock sensor. You can use the WbO2Cal program to adjust the output voltage.

If you are wondering how to use the button :
The instructions are @ the top of the page below and the image on the right shows the logic flow.
http://wbo2.com/2a0/logger.htm

(You can also mount the button away from the unit externally @ http://wbo2.com/2a0/logmods.htm)

As for the price of the 2C0 you can email pete @ techedge

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Originally Posted by monodax
If you are wondering how to use the button :
The instructions are @ the top of the page below and the image on the right shows the logic flow.
http://wbo2.com/2a0/logger.htm
Thanks Monodax

I understand the function of the button on the 2ao unit itself but the LD01 display that i have also has a button on it and i don't seem to be able to find a reference to it on the tech edge site.

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this would be great because its small and easier to permanently mount. No more switching on a box after the car is started.

dave
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[QUOTE=Holden LS1 Tonner]
Originally Posted by monodax
If you are wondering how to use the button :
The instructions are @ the top of the page below and the image on the right shows the logic flow.
http://wbo2.com/2a0/logger.htm

Thanks Monodax

I understand the function of the button on the 2ao unit itself but the LD01 display that i have also has a button on it and i don't seem to be able to find a reference to it on the tech edge site.

http://www.wbo2.com/ld01

No problem, The button is really not a button. It is a Light sensor. It is used for the Auto Dimming functionality of the display. It is similar to the sensor for our headlights on our cars @ night on the dash.
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
this would be great because its small and easier to permanently mount. No more switching on a box after the car is started.

dave
I'm real happy with my PLX Devices. Its a little bigger then a cigarette pack (or deck of cards for those that dont smoke) and is always on.
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you dont have to flip it off prior to starting to car to prevent a spike?

Dave
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Originally Posted by ataylors
Pre orders will be in a couple of weeks, they should be fully available in about 4 weeks!!! Merry Christmas!!!
So where will we be able to order them from, exactly ...

I have an ATI D1SC on the way and want to be able to keep tabs on it. I am going to be ordering the software from HP Tuners, and was going to buy a standalone wideband AFR meter for tuning, but using it in conjunction without having to have a separate unit would be great (and cheaper).
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
you dont have to flip it off prior to starting to car to prevent a spike?

Dave
Not sure what you mean by spike.

But in any case, no it is always on.

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Old 11-23-2004, 12:33 PM
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Holy crap, I got my lm1 today and it is freaking huge.
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I like how that box says 'lean'
Old 11-24-2004, 02:54 PM
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Hi,

It's called LC-1. It has the AFR measuring guts of the LM-1 in the cable connector waterproof molded in. No display, no internal logging. Autodetect between Bosch LSU or NTK sensor. Designed to live outside the car between frame rails for example.
Cable can be extended to up to 30ft.

It has on the other cable end:

- 2 analog outs (programmable for any linear curve 0..5V, 0..1V, 1..0V or whatever you choose). Max output resolution of about 1 mV and 0.015 AFR. Programmable range from 8.5 AFR to up to 88.2 AFR. Can be programmed individually for driving analog AFR gauge and ECU.

- 2 Serial ports for datalogging and programming. Multiple LC-1's can be daisy-chained for multichannel AFR. Can also be daisy-chained with LM-1 and LMA-3's for up to 32 channels of realtime logging. Can also be connected to XD-1 digital display(s).

- 12V supply
- Separate grounds for heater, system, analog outs.

- Calibration input. Free air calibration can be initiated by connecting this line to ground with a pushbutton. Also you can connect a LED to that to show status (if XD-1 is not used).

Price not finalized yet.


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