What do you think off LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter
05-10-2005, 11:25 AM
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What do you think off LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter looking for feed back on this or something sim...io think this would be good to tune with LT1 Stock pcm.....
LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm1.php
any info would be nice
thx
LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm1.php
any info would be nice
thx
05-11-2005, 01:23 PM
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I also am very happy with my LM-1. It appears to be very accurate. Cruising the freeway my AFR reads between 14.7 and 14.9 which I think is suprisingly close agreement with the narrowband sensors. Support from IM is also very good.
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05-11-2005, 04:12 PM
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05-12-2005, 10:29 AM
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I would stay away from the zeitronix. I have this wideband and had issues with getting it to work properly with HPT. I have since tried to contact zeitronix due to a issue I am having with the output not showing a voltage now and they don't really seem to care. I am myself looking into another wideband. I have priced out a few and the LM1 and FJO are both very attractive. FJO just released their setup with the bosch sensor so it is very affordable now for what they have to offer. If memory serves me correctly, you can pick up either for less then $400.
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05-12-2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
I would stay away from the zeitronix. I have this wideband and had issues with getting it to work properly with HPT. I have since tried to contact zeitronix due to a issue I am having with the output not showing a voltage now and they don't really seem to care. I am myself looking into another wideband. I have priced out a few and the LM1 and FJO are both very attractive. FJO just released their setup with the bosch sensor so it is very affordable now for what they have to offer. If memory serves me correctly, you can pick up either for less then $400.
05-12-2005, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
I would stay away from the zeitronix. I have this wideband and had issues with getting it to work properly with HPT. I have since tried to contact zeitronix due to a issue I am having with the output not showing a voltage now and they don't really seem to care. I am myself looking into another wideband. I have priced out a few and the LM1 and FJO are both very attractive. FJO just released their setup with the bosch sensor so it is very affordable now for what they have to offer. If memory serves me correctly, you can pick up either for less then $400.
05-12-2005, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
I would need to log data, so don't care about the pricey displays. There would be no integration with EASE or LS1Edit, so it looks like the RPM pickup is needed too, which means the dual channel controller?
Overall, seems more expensive than the Innovate solution.
05-12-2005, 05:08 PM
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the only thing with that is he doesnt have an ls1 powered car meaning at this time his only option would be lt1edit i would think...meaning he wouldnt be using a scanner with an analog input that i know of...unless he spends the extra bucks for efilive or what have you. To save yourself $80-120 it might be an ok choice for him at this time.
05-12-2005, 05:12 PM
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But, the Bosch is another $200, right?
I would need to log data, so don't care about the pricey displays. There would be no integration with EASE or LS1Edit, so it looks like the RPM pickup is needed too, which means the dual channel controller?
Overall, seems more expensive than the Innovate solution.
I would need to log data, so don't care about the pricey displays. There would be no integration with EASE or LS1Edit, so it looks like the RPM pickup is needed too, which means the dual channel controller?
Overall, seems more expensive than the Innovate solution.
05-12-2005, 05:31 PM
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Innovate seems complete: LM-1 Kit with RPM Converter (LMA-2) - #3724 @ $429
FJO seems more complex. You need a 2 channel controller kit: KWB3002 @ $385.50 + (wideband O2 sensor SO20003 $204.75 or SO20004 $70.75, why is Bosch so much cheaper??) + Clamp-on Inductive RPM Pickup HWB3003 @ $71.50, which comes to $527.75
FJO seems more complex. You need a 2 channel controller kit: KWB3002 @ $385.50 + (wideband O2 sensor SO20003 $204.75 or SO20004 $70.75, why is Bosch so much cheaper??) + Clamp-on Inductive RPM Pickup HWB3003 @ $71.50, which comes to $527.75
05-13-2005, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyIDs
Innovate seems complete: LM-1 Kit with RPM Converter (LMA-2) - #3724 @ $429
FJO seems more complex. You need a 2 channel controller kit: KWB3002 @ $385.50 + (wideband O2 sensor SO20003 $204.75 or SO20004 $70.75, why is Bosch so much cheaper??) + Clamp-on Inductive RPM Pickup HWB3003 @ $71.50, which comes to $527.75
FJO seems more complex. You need a 2 channel controller kit: KWB3002 @ $385.50 + (wideband O2 sensor SO20003 $204.75 or SO20004 $70.75, why is Bosch so much cheaper??) + Clamp-on Inductive RPM Pickup HWB3003 @ $71.50, which comes to $527.75
Single Channel Controller Kit - 292.25$
Bosch Wideband O2 Sensor - 70.75$
Total - 363.00$
You do not need the dual channel or the RPM pickup. You can tap directly into the tach/rpm wire on the PCM.
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05-13-2005, 06:46 AM
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He is right I have the FJO singel channel setup and the box comes with two inputs before the EIO/Flashscan cables I tapped directly into my map sensor and tach wire and did my logging that way. I didnt buy any extra cables
05-13-2005, 08:36 AM
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Yup pulled a section of the plastic back and tied the input wire around the pcm wire. I dont like cutting wires so the next best thing for me was to seperate the insulation just enough to show some copper
