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Something that probably should be also noted is that there is an EFI University for those that want hands on training. Times and Classes are also up on efi's site.
http://www.efilive.com/forum/viewfor...683b5f0f528395
BTW: I am ( was ) also someone that had ZERO knowledge about tuning. After using LS1edit and getting my cam'ed car running ok, then using EFI its running great. Also posting your comments and suggestions up to EFI they do respond quickly whether they can do something or not.
http://www.efilive.com/forum/viewfor...683b5f0f528395
BTW: I am ( was ) also someone that had ZERO knowledge about tuning. After using LS1edit and getting my cam'ed car running ok, then using EFI its running great. Also posting your comments and suggestions up to EFI they do respond quickly whether they can do something or not.
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
I just receive my copy of EFI LIVE. After doing some reading (okay, the first 85 pages on the Scan tool) I'm trying to get going... Lets just say I don't have have many positive things to say right now!!!
Since there appears to be nothing but electronic tech support (WTF???), would any of you mind sending me your phone # so I can contact you with basic questions? If you don't mind lending a hand, please send me a PM with your contact info.
Thank you SO much!!!
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Since there appears to be nothing but electronic tech support (WTF???), would any of you mind sending me your phone # so I can contact you with basic questions? If you don't mind lending a hand, please send me a PM with your contact info.
Thank you SO much!!!
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
Wet - pm me your email address. I too will be installing an LC-1 in the next week. I have all ready created my PID. Will be easiest for me to email you the file.
To answer your question though, no, you can't use the LM-1 PID.
To answer your question though, no, you can't use the LM-1 PID.
I installed the LC-1 PID file you sent me (THANKS AGAIN!!!). The LC-1 PID now shows up at the end of the available wideband PID's on the list with the factor EFILive installed PID's. One problem though, it has a cross though it (like all the other unsupported PID's) and when I try to select the PID it gives me a warning message that this in not a valid PID.
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What do I need to do to make this PID accessible? Any ideas? I guess I really should take this over to EFI's site, but I see many of the same names are here!
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Originally Posted by SmaknSS
I just got my Flashscan less than a week ago, I was having problem at first too and was feeling the same way you are,but be paitient and read up! I find it's getting alot easer to understand now, I'm starting to love this tuning tool.
and the black box feature is real bad ***.
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Originally Posted by ace68
Wet1 did you get your LC-1 working? Also, you have to put that before the cats or it will give you a false reading.
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BTW, no cats here... only the spotted type and they stay in the house.
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does you pid tex look like this?
# ================================================== ============================
# File details
# ------------
#
# This section defines various details about the file format.
*FILE
#Parameter Value Description
#---------- ---------------- ---------------------------------------------------
VERSION 7.1.1 File version
DECSEP . Decimal separator used in this file
# ================================================== ============================
# Units
# -------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section
*UNITS
#Code System Abbr Description
#-------- ---------- -------- --------------------------------------------------
# ================================================== ============================
# Add slot definitions here
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
#
#Units Low High Fmt Expression
#------------ ------------- ------------- ---- ---------------------------------
*CLC-00-001
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
# ================================================== ============================
*PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
#
#Code PRN SLOT Units System Description
#------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------------
CALC.AFR_LC11 F001 CLC-00-001 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_Lc11 F002 CLC-00-002 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
CALC.AFR_LC12 F003 CLC-00-003 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_LC12 F004 CLC-00-004 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"
# File details
# ------------
#
# This section defines various details about the file format.
*FILE
#Parameter Value Description
#---------- ---------------- ---------------------------------------------------
VERSION 7.1.1 File version
DECSEP . Decimal separator used in this file
# ================================================== ============================
# Units
# -------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section
*UNITS
#Code System Abbr Description
#-------- ---------- -------- --------------------------------------------------
# ================================================== ============================
# Add slot definitions here
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
#
#Units Low High Fmt Expression
#------------ ------------- ------------- ---- ---------------------------------
*CLC-00-001
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
# ================================================== ============================
*PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
#
#Code PRN SLOT Units System Description
#------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------------
CALC.AFR_LC11 F001 CLC-00-001 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_Lc11 F002 CLC-00-002 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
CALC.AFR_LC12 F003 CLC-00-003 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_LC12 F004 CLC-00-004 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"
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WET - I got my LC-1 running this weekend and there is a slight difference in the PID Calculation, verified by the guys at EFILive.
From Ace's post, this is the correct formula:
({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35
({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35
You will need to update the PID file I sent you.
Also, you need to select the following PID's to get the AFR from the WB into live:
External Analog Voltage n (required)
Wideband AFR n - LC-1 (required)
Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (optional)
Base Efficiency Numerator n - LC-1 (optional)
Where n = 1 or 2 depending on which input you wired into the flashscan box
If you can stand it, wait till Thursday or Friday this week. I'll be posting a pretty thorough step-by-step autotuning procedure on the EFILive forum.
From Ace's post, this is the correct formula:
({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35
({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35
You will need to update the PID file I sent you.
Also, you need to select the following PID's to get the AFR from the WB into live:
External Analog Voltage n (required)
Wideband AFR n - LC-1 (required)
Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (optional)
Base Efficiency Numerator n - LC-1 (optional)
Where n = 1 or 2 depending on which input you wired into the flashscan box
If you can stand it, wait till Thursday or Friday this week. I'll be posting a pretty thorough step-by-step autotuning procedure on the EFILive forum.
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Here's the one I used:
#
================================================== ============================
# File details
# ------------
#
# This section defines various details about the file format.
*FILE
#Parameter Value Description
#---------- ----------------
---------------------------------------------------
VERSION 7.1.1 File version
DECSEP . Decimal separator used in this file
#
================================================== ============================
# Units
# -------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section
*UNITS
#Code System Abbr Description
#-------- ---------- --------
--------------------------------------------------
#
================================================== ============================
# Add slot definitions here
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
#
#Units Low High Fmt Expression
#------------ ------------- ------------- ----
---------------------------------
*CLC-00-001
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2
"(({EXT.AD1}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1
"{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2
"(({EXT.AD2}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1
"{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
#
================================================== ============================
*PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
#
#Code PRN SLOT Units System
Description
#------------------------- ---- ------------ ----------------
---------------- ---------------------------------
CALC.AFR_LC11 F001 CLC-00-001 "V,AFR" Fuel
"Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_Lc11 F002 CLC-00-002 factor Fuel
"Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
CALC.AFR_LC12 F003 CLC-00-003 "V,AFR" Fuel
"Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_LC12 F004 CLC-00-004 factor Fuel
"Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"
#
================================================== ============================
# File details
# ------------
#
# This section defines various details about the file format.
*FILE
#Parameter Value Description
#---------- ----------------
---------------------------------------------------
VERSION 7.1.1 File version
DECSEP . Decimal separator used in this file
#
================================================== ============================
# Units
# -------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section
*UNITS
#Code System Abbr Description
#-------- ---------- --------
--------------------------------------------------
#
================================================== ============================
# Add slot definitions here
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
#
#Units Low High Fmt Expression
#------------ ------------- ------------- ----
---------------------------------
*CLC-00-001
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2
"(({EXT.AD1}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1
"{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2
"(({EXT.AD2}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1
"{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
#
================================================== ============================
*PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
# --------------------------------
# See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
#
#Code PRN SLOT Units System
Description
#------------------------- ---- ------------ ----------------
---------------- ---------------------------------
CALC.AFR_LC11 F001 CLC-00-001 "V,AFR" Fuel
"Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_Lc11 F002 CLC-00-002 factor Fuel
"Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
CALC.AFR_LC12 F003 CLC-00-003 "V,AFR" Fuel
"Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
CALC.BEN_LC12 F004 CLC-00-004 factor Fuel
"Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"
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use this section in yours
*CLC-00-001
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-002
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-003
V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
*CLC-00-004
factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
You need to make sure you select the BEN for the LC1. You can find that under your pid list under calculations. That PID, the LC1 PID itslef and the AD1/AD2 PID. All need to be selected to use the wideband.
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
unfortunatly I'm not going to have a lot of time to play with this stuff until the weekend. ![Cry](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cry.gif)
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That sux. you will be jonesing all week to get your hands back on it.
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
WET - I got my LC-1 running this weekend and there is a slight difference in the PID Calculation, verified by the guys at EFILive.
From Ace's post, this is the correct formula:
({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35
({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35
You will need to update the PID file I sent you.
Also, you need to select the following PID's to get the AFR from the WB into live:
External Analog Voltage n (required)
Wideband AFR n - LC-1 (required)
Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (optional)
Base Efficiency Numerator n - LC-1 (optional)
Where n = 1 or 2 depending on which input you wired into the flashscan box
From Ace's post, this is the correct formula:
({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35
({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35
You will need to update the PID file I sent you.
Also, you need to select the following PID's to get the AFR from the WB into live:
External Analog Voltage n (required)
Wideband AFR n - LC-1 (required)
Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (optional)
Base Efficiency Numerator n - LC-1 (optional)
Where n = 1 or 2 depending on which input you wired into the flashscan box
Originally Posted by Black02SS
You need to make sure you select the BEN for the LC1. You can find that under your pid list under calculations. That PID, the LC1 PID itslef and the AD1/AD2 PID. All need to be selected to use the wideband.
What I did find which was similar was under Pid_info under the PID folder (using Win Explorer):
Ext.AD1=None
Calc.AFR_LC11=None
Calc.AFR_LC12=None
Calc.BEN_LC11=None
Calc.BEN_LC12=None
I tried changing these to "=1" and saved the new values. When I opened the Scan tool, the PID for the WB LC-1 was still crossed out (not valid). After closing the scan tool and going back under Pid_info is see the values are now changed back to "=None".
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I'm obviously trying to make changes in the wrong place. Could you guys be specific where and how I need to make these changes please?