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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Do I need to play with the VE table to get these #'s down. This is at idle . Mods are AFR 205's, Z06 cam, Hooker LT's, Nick Williams 90 TB, LSX 90.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Yes...you have most definitely affected the VE of the engine.

Off topic slightly, but do you have any numbers from that setup (the AFRs with the LS6 cam)? And are you using the AFR-supplied valve springs?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Tuning with an LSX intake on the Dyno with a wide band resulted in around a one point difference in the AFR towards the lean side. so adjust accordingly.i.e. 12.9 to 13.9
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Holy lean... That combo looks like it would take a little more fuel at idle, but wow... Must be the small cam combined with the high velocity AFR's?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Yes...you have most definitely affected the VE of the engine.

Off topic slightly, but do you have any numbers from that setup (the AFRs with the LS6 cam)? And are you using the AFR-supplied valve springs?

We just finished the install around 1 in the morning last night and put in a basic tune on it and ran a quick idle scan and yes, we're running the AFR valve springs.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Holy lean... That combo looks like it would take a little more fuel at idle, but wow... Must be the small cam combined with the high velocity AFR's?

LOL, That's what I said. I told my friend to go with a bigger cam , but he wants to see what it will run first.
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You have a very bad intake leak. Unmetered air is getting in somehow/somewhere
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We just finished the install around 1 in the morning last night and put in a basic tune on it and ran a quick idle scan and yes, we're running the AFR valve springs.
What?!? You finished at 1 in the morning, and haven't had it on the dyno yet? Blasphemy!

I'm just interested to hear the numbers after seeing Z06s put down 410+ with just the AFR heads.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
You have a very bad intake leak. Unmetered air is getting in somehow/somewhere
I didn't want to hear that. We did hear a leak and found that we forgot to put the brake booster hose back on. When that happened the STFT were at +35 When we hooked it back on STFT 0 to -3,but LTFT +25. I guess we're going to try a little VE tuning and see if that changes things and if that doesn't work, we'll just have to reinstall the intake.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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I didn't want to hear that. We did hear a leak and found that we forgot to put the brake booster hose back on. When that happened the STFT were at +35 When we hooked it back on STFT 0 to -3,but LTFT +25. I guess we're going to try a little VE tuning and see if that changes things and if that doesn't work, we'll just have to reinstall the intake.
Reset your LTFT's, the old ones dont immediately go away
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Reset your LTFT's, the old ones dont immediately go away
Thanks, I'll try that.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Yeah, if the ltfts don't come down after a reset you def. have a leak.
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LSX flows a lot more air, so you gotta retune your VE, and it might be a significant change, so it's nothing out of the ordinary. If you're expecting leaks, do some WOT runs and watch the O2s/WB, see if they hold still or go bonkers.
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