HPTv2.0.16 vs RAF Spreadsheet..
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HPTv2.0.16 vs RAF Spreadsheet.. Anyone know if it works the same, any difference? Only thing I noticed from a quick glance was I was unable to open my old config files, WTF? Guess since you change the config on the fly, it compensates for having to setup a few new ones 
I built config files for those...
try my link
www.audiohelix.com/file
look under hptuners histograms
try my link
www.audiohelix.com/file
look under hptuners histograms
Last edited by soundengineer; Oct 20, 2005 at 06:30 PM.
yeah you cant use the old configs you have. the raf spreadsheet never worked out for me right. best bet for me was to do it by hand. but now i actually just have a histogram keep track of it all for me and its a lot easier
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Originally Posted by foff667
yes, & theres a histogram already setup for you to use thanks to scott(soundengineer)
Are we talking about the same thing....
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Im on the Airflow - Desired Airflow Metric histrogram. After running it for about 10mins at idle during cold startup I got these numbers that are completely off from the Idle Startup Initial Friction table, The histogram showed me numbers of 15, 8, etc. The table is way lower than the data I just scanned.
Dixit
Dixit
Its not a startup initial friction table.
Look at what PID it is logging.. desired Dynamic Airflow..
It only uses that table header as its one of the few headers that is the same as idle airflow across the years.
You cannot use the idle airflow table definition in your histogram configs as one of the axis is vs PN and Gear... which the software does not know how to differentiate between.
Look at what PID it is logging.. desired Dynamic Airflow..
It only uses that table header as its one of the few headers that is the same as idle airflow across the years.
You cannot use the idle airflow table definition in your histogram configs as one of the axis is vs PN and Gear... which the software does not know how to differentiate between.
the desired airflow histogram is RAF....
probably shoud have been labeled different :/ I didnt label those
but it is designed to be a direct cut and paste for your RAF table
directions for use??
M6
Put car in neutral(cause its easier than clutch in the whole time)
FANS OFF
AC OFF
start car from cold start
lt it idle until completely up to operating temperature
stop logging
copy table to Base Running Airflow- Idle Airflow table
for A4
same as above...
except once in Park or Neutral
and then once in Gear with Foot on the Brake
probably shoud have been labeled different :/ I didnt label those
but it is designed to be a direct cut and paste for your RAF table
directions for use??
M6
Put car in neutral(cause its easier than clutch in the whole time)
FANS OFF
AC OFF
start car from cold start
lt it idle until completely up to operating temperature
stop logging
copy table to Base Running Airflow- Idle Airflow table
for A4
same as above...
except once in Park or Neutral
and then once in Gear with Foot on the Brake
Now that makes more sense. I was compeltely confused when I saw the Startup Idle Friction table and thought why is it referencing that?
So if I just cut and paste, my STIT and LTIT will still be off by say about 0.30 g/sec which I assume is neglible? I also logged the STIT and LTIT this morning and Im showing it about 0.30 or so off from what the Desired Idle Airflow PID was showing.
Dixit
So if I just cut and paste, my STIT and LTIT will still be off by say about 0.30 g/sec which I assume is neglible? I also logged the STIT and LTIT this morning and Im showing it about 0.30 or so off from what the Desired Idle Airflow PID was showing.
Dixit
Definetely used the VCM controls to make sure both fans were off and AC was off.
So with the cut and paste my startup should be dead on but normal driving it will be off about +/-0.40 max for adders.
Dixit
So with the cut and paste my startup should be dead on but normal driving it will be off about +/-0.40 max for adders.
Dixit
Originally Posted by soundengineer
the desired airflow histogram is RAF....
probably shoud have been labeled different :/ I didnt label those
but it is designed to be a direct cut and paste for your RAF table
directions for use??
M6
Put car in neutral(cause its easier than clutch in the whole time)
FANS OFF
AC OFF
start car from cold start
lt it idle until completely up to operating temperature
stop logging
copy table to Base Running Airflow- Idle Airflow table
for A4
same as above...
except once in Park or Neutral
and then once in Gear with Foot on the Brake
probably shoud have been labeled different :/ I didnt label those
but it is designed to be a direct cut and paste for your RAF table
directions for use??
M6
Put car in neutral(cause its easier than clutch in the whole time)
FANS OFF
AC OFF
start car from cold start
lt it idle until completely up to operating temperature
stop logging
copy table to Base Running Airflow- Idle Airflow table
for A4
same as above...
except once in Park or Neutral
and then once in Gear with Foot on the Brake
So what values would you use, the "average" or the "last count" or would you just see what the eact value the scanner shows on playback for each temperature?
Bill
Someone mentioned an issue with 2.0 not keeping the VCM controls active for more than 5 seconds.. I never noticed the issue but it is posible you are experiencing that issue. I'll look into it.
Originally Posted by Magnus
Someone mentioned an issue with 2.0 not keeping the VCM controls active for more than 5 seconds.. I never noticed the issue but it is posible you are experiencing that issue. I'll look into it.
This was with Ver 2.0.14 
Originally Posted by Billiumss
So what values would you use, the "average" or the "last count" or would you just see what the eact value the scanner shows on playback for each temperature?
Bill
Bill
But, dang, on a hot start, the RPM's dropped like a rock right to the idle RPM; it didn't hang at all. I still get a bit of overshoot when I blip the throttle. but I presume I just need to tweak my throttle follower decay(p/n) table for that(?)