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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Wow what logic!! I can't wait to sell my HP Tuners, that way when my customers or dyno operators try to start or shut off the inginiton while i'm flashing a file they can have a ruined pcm. Who needs the really nice reocvery feature.

That guy is a moron, please take all ls1 related software, including ls1edit away from him
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombguy99z28
So much sarcasm in this thread, I don't know what to make of it...

Does anyone know if they make a conversion kit to hook up my wiring harness to an abbacus?
that one was too much!! hahahaha!!!!!
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
Or tell the customer to live with the effects of a big cam

that's probably my favorite line
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I remember reading this guys stuff on the corvette forum years ago, last I seen him was hanging out on crossedflags in the PCM section.

I guess I'll go sacrifice my EFILive software to the LS1 edit gods and hope they forgive me !

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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This is soooo funny. I started to post that the other day. I go way back butting heads with Team ZR1. I see he still hasn't learned anything. If I remember correctly, he sales Ease and pushes that and all else was junk. lol
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Redhawk
This is soooo funny. I started to post that the other day. I go way back butting heads with Team ZR1. I see he still hasn't learned anything. If I remember correctly, he sales Ease and pushes that and all else was junk. lol
yeah i noticed that on his site
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by horist
hmmm... interesting commentary... I think i'll switch back to LS1 Edit now ...
Yea, I always liked logging with Autotap and then putting all that info into excel so I could wade through it looking for info I cared about.

Damn you HPtuners and your histograms!
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by itchygomey98
Yea, I always liked logging with Autotap and then putting all that info into excel so I could wade through it looking for info I cared about.
well... this is what I'm doing. I also developed my own calculation tables for MAF, VE, Timing and shift tuning.
Nothing professional, it takes time, but at least I know where the numbers are coming from.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tici
well... this is what I'm doing. I also developed my own calculation tables for MAF, VE, Timing and shift tuning.
Nothing professional, it takes time, but at least I know where the numbers are coming from.
ummmm I was joking You're right about that taking time though.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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yep... especially when it comes to smooth the VE or timing table.
But it's something you do once or max twice, so it's not too bad.
I still stick with Atap because it's on my palm: wery handy to monitor things while I'm driving

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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I like the boost guage - that's pretty clean.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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That JR rant showed up in my mailbox too.

Here's my .02, for what it's worth. I think EASE is a great scanning program, but there are other options out there. I've dealt with JR and he's been helpful getting me sorted out. In the beginning he recommended going back to a stock MAF and upgrading my injectors, which I did, and he was exactly right, as far as I'm concerned. I had him tune my idle in which he did a terrific job, it's perfect. He seems to be able to extrapolate data from EASE to arrive at a good power producing tune using MORE than just the deltorq PID. I've never been able to do it, so I picked up an LM-1 to help me with that job. I started with LS1 Edit, and still use it, because I've seen no reason to switch. It'll get the job done as well as any other package. Tuning is more about the tuner than the software program. I don't think he's an "idiot," just close-minded and set in his ways. I think he's as wrong bashing HP Tuners as others are bashing LS1 Edit. An eye for an eye I guess.

Overall, my dealing with JR have been more helpful than anything as I've learned to look beyond character flaws. Anyway, just my humble .02. FWIW.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Predator
That JR rant showed up in my mailbox too.

Here's my .02, for what it's worth. I think EASE is a great scanning program, but there are other options out there. I've dealt with JR and he's been helpful getting me sorted out. In the beginning he recommended going back to a stock MAF and upgrading my injectors, which I did, and he was exactly right, as far as I'm concerned. I had him tune my idle in which he did a terrific job, it's perfect. He seems to be able to extrapolate data from EASE to arrive at a good power producing tune using MORE than just the deltorq PID. I've never been able to do it, so I picked up an LM-1 to help me with that job. I started with LS1 Edit, and still use it, because I've seen no reason to switch. It'll get the job done as well as any other package. Tuning is more about the tuner than the software program. I don't think he's an "idiot," just close-minded and set in his ways. I think he's as wrong bashing HP Tuners as others are bashing LS1 Edit. An eye for an eye I guess.

Overall, my dealing with JR have been more helpful than anything as I've learned to look beyond character flaws. Anyway, just my humble .02. FWIW.
No, he really IS an idiot... EASE is a decent scan tool package, that isn't the issue. The issue is JR thinks he's an expert in everything, but he's a master of nothing. He makes false claims about the software he doesn't use, for whatever reason. That's nothing compared to some of the really stupid things he's said over the years. I'm glad he was able to get your car running the way you like, because in the end that's what matters.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Brains
No, he really IS an idiot... EASE is a decent scan tool package, that isn't the issue. The issue is JR thinks he's an expert in everything, but he's a master of nothing. He makes false claims about the software he doesn't use, for whatever reason. That's nothing compared to some of the really stupid things he's said over the years. I'm glad he was able to get your car running the way you like, because in the end that's what matters.
I understand why you feel that way, and I respect your opinion as you respected mine. Anyway, live and let live. And you're right, as long as we're getting our cars tuned to our liking, that's what really matters.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
No, he really IS an idiot... EASE is a decent scan tool package, that isn't the issue. The issue is JR thinks he's an expert in everything, but he's a master of nothing. He makes false claims about the software he doesn't use, for whatever reason. That's nothing compared to some of the really stupid things he's said over the years. I'm glad he was able to get your car running the way you like, because in the end that's what matters.
He is a Master of B.S.
He does spew some good info occasionally/rarely - but you have to weed it from the garbage.
He seems to have reappeared as "boosted_Z06" on CorvetteForum.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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I agree with you i got my car tuned by jr i think he did an overall good job even though he tuned it in a different altitude (oregon where he lives vs san jose cal) when i got back down to where i live the car felt way different.. i do disagree with a couple of things that he said like he doesnt like anything aftermaket for example my fast set up, fipk and many other little thinks that he said are a waste of money... well yeah his kinda weird but with my experinece he was able to do what two other tuners did down here in san jose werent able to do... my .02





Originally Posted by Predator
That JR rant showed up in my mailbox too.

Here's my .02, for what it's worth. I think EASE is a great scanning program, but there are other options out there. I've dealt with JR and he's been helpful getting me sorted out. In the beginning he recommended going back to a stock MAF and upgrading my injectors, which I did, and he was exactly right, as far as I'm concerned. I had him tune my idle in which he did a terrific job, it's perfect. He seems to be able to extrapolate data from EASE to arrive at a good power producing tune using MORE than just the deltorq PID. I've never been able to do it, so I picked up an LM-1 to help me with that job. I started with LS1 Edit, and still use it, because I've seen no reason to switch. It'll get the job done as well as any other package. Tuning is more about the tuner than the software program. I don't think he's an "idiot," just close-minded and set in his ways. I think he's as wrong bashing HP Tuners as others are bashing LS1 Edit. An eye for an eye I guess.

Overall, my dealing with JR have been more helpful than anything as I've learned to look beyond character flaws. Anyway, just my humble .02. FWIW.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Wake up, you'll never see anything negative about any product that is
paying
the kickback fees to forums
they simply do not allow it
Glad you explained that you use a snapshot Tech-II for tunings, answered
questions I had about your tuning methods
So what your saying is your views are just fine but anyone else who has
***** to buck the forum trends is "bashing"
Just because your dealership does not use Ease then the whole country must
be the same,
Hate to tell you but if they flash PCMs they are using Ease products for
that is where GM gets the SPS.

As to aussieland, give me a break, there is a big difference in what a EPA
driven powertrain control has to do then one down under.

The fact is that if LS1edit is used properly it can tune any powertrain
configuration and any claims of another product tuning better is simply BS
and marketing hype that people buy into because of forum hype.

As to Ease, the scanner quality is more important then the tuning tool for
it is the scanner data that dictates how and what to do in a tune. People
buy scanners and assume its giving valid data when its not.
Try checking a NON American scanner that lives in metric but when converts
to english uses wrong math.
Ease is the ONLY of those scanners with direct GM engineering input and
reason they are the only laptop scanner that supports all GM signal sets,
enhanced pids and sees all modules in the car
so you call it bashing, I call it be smart and use the tools that assure
better tuning results and I rather use a tier 2 supplier product as Ease
then some dudes backward engineering that claims GM and EPA is wrong and he
is right.

I suggest you look at paul's source code or even where he got some of it
from
More drivel. If this dude thinks no of these software engineers reverse engineered the GM PCM (edit included)his is a fool. His claim here
I call it be smart and use the tools that assure
better tuning results and I rather use a tier 2 supplier product as Ease
then some dudes backward engineering that claims GM and EPA is wrong and he
is right.
then in a later email posts
Yes when carputing needed one they got it from me

you can review SPS here
http://obd2.com/sps/data/sps.htm
This comes with C/Ds from GM with all car/truck flashes of 1993 to present
models and updates for 1 year and then you need to buy new yearly license
for newer flash updates

or the newest design which also does other modules in the car programmed,
also supports other car makes

http://obd2.com/J2534/index.html
Clearly shows he gave Carpuing what they needed so they could ALSO REVERSE ENGINEER the GM PCM. What an ***. I think this dude talk so much he cant remember or recall what he said 5 minutes ago...
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
................... What an ***. I think this dude talk so much he cant remember or recall what he said 5 minutes ago...
Yep, a true bullshit artist. ..................
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bink
He is a Master of B.S.
He does spew some good info occasionally/rarely - but you have to weed it from the garbage.
He seems to have reappeared as "boosted_Z06" on CorvetteForum.

Yupper... He seems to always be TROLLING with some useless garbage post... explaining how we are all GD idiots and he is the master...

Does he even own a LSx based car/truck???
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bink
Yep, a true bullshit artist. ..................
You are all too kind. I've seen him on the Forums for years and his rants are getting worse. He needs help, fast.
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