How do I eleminate TM with Ls1 Edit??
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From: Amarillo, TX
Also how to i get the computer to lock up the converter when i hit 3rd gear? To change the shift points i just set the rpm where i want it and set the mph low. It goes by the rpm right? Thanks for the info. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
This is how I got rid of TQ Management...
in Eng ---> Ignition ---> TQ Management
Max TQ 800, Abuse Mode 7000 RPM Spd 0...
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TQ Reduction set to 0 for whole table,
Since I dont have TCS I also set it 0, both Tables
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For Shift Points, I have all 3 Coloums like this
37
65
116
33
61
112
6150
6150
6150
6150
*
Not sure about TC lockup
in Eng ---> Ignition ---> TQ Management
Max TQ 800, Abuse Mode 7000 RPM Spd 0...
*
TQ Reduction set to 0 for whole table,
Since I dont have TCS I also set it 0, both Tables
*
For Shift Points, I have all 3 Coloums like this
37
65
116
33
61
112
6150
6150
6150
6150
*
Not sure about TC lockup
Also add timing in the spark retard limit table. Default value is -10 degrees, you should change it to +15 on a stock tranny and you will only dip to 15 degrees of timing on shifts. Mine is set to +20 with the FLP tranny, it has made a huge difference. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Amarillo, TX
I have a trans-go shift kit in mine but no other alterations. Will +15 work with that? Thanks for the feedback guys. I really appreciate it, James.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by James Hyde:
<strong>I have a trans-go shift kit in mine but no other alterations. Will +15 work with that? Thanks for the feedback guys. I really appreciate it, James.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">+15 should be perfect. I have a buddy with that setting on his stock tranny and he has had no issues at all.
They really should rename that table, the only thing it does is regulate what your timing is during the shift.
<small>[ June 29, 2002, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Reboot ]</small>
<strong>I have a trans-go shift kit in mine but no other alterations. Will +15 work with that? Thanks for the feedback guys. I really appreciate it, James.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">+15 should be perfect. I have a buddy with that setting on his stock tranny and he has had no issues at all.
They really should rename that table, the only thing it does is regulate what your timing is during the shift.
<small>[ June 29, 2002, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Reboot ]</small>
the "spark retard limit" table is always working on my truck, it will pull timing from the main timing table based on IAT. it pulls timing all the time if it is hot enuff, not just when shifting.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by parish8:
<strong>the "spark retard limit" table is always working on my truck, it will pull timing from the main timing table based on IAT. it pulls timing all the time if it is hot enuff, not just when shifting.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well the default value in the table for our F-body's is -10 degrees so if that were the case, on hot days we would all be driving around with our timing set at -10 degreees of retard.
I have done several A-Tap logs and my timing is normal even on hot days but the timong on shifts now drops to +20 instead of -10.
Maybe it's different for trucks?
<strong>the "spark retard limit" table is always working on my truck, it will pull timing from the main timing table based on IAT. it pulls timing all the time if it is hot enuff, not just when shifting.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well the default value in the table for our F-body's is -10 degrees so if that were the case, on hot days we would all be driving around with our timing set at -10 degreees of retard.
I have done several A-Tap logs and my timing is normal even on hot days but the timong on shifts now drops to +20 instead of -10.
Maybe it's different for trucks?
i think the "spark retard limit" table controls more than just the TM, if you change it the "IAT vs map timing adjustment" table wont work anymore either.
the spark retard limit" table is probably the easiest way to adjust for TM and the other table only comes into effect when the IAT is above 90deg and above, thats how it seems to work on my truck anyways.
the spark retard limit" table is probably the easiest way to adjust for TM and the other table only comes into effect when the IAT is above 90deg and above, thats how it seems to work on my truck anyways.
I have mine currently set at 20 and all the atap readings show timing dropping to 19.5 on the shifts.
Heres my thoughts on the tranny wear issue....
sure an engine making full power thru a tranny is gonna wear on the tranny quicker but older cars had no tm and they held up just fine. Think its just a little added insurance by gm to cut down on warranty. Dure they feel every little bit helps and a large percentaqge of ls1 owners don't care about tm and probably never have even heard of it.
Heres my thoughts on the tranny wear issue....
sure an engine making full power thru a tranny is gonna wear on the tranny quicker but older cars had no tm and they held up just fine. Think its just a little added insurance by gm to cut down on warranty. Dure they feel every little bit helps and a large percentaqge of ls1 owners don't care about tm and probably never have even heard of it.
i am no expert here but i can tell you my IAT - MAP timing adjustment does not work if i take the spark retard timing limit to +10. i don't think that matters though because the table doesn't kick in untill about 90deg IAT. that table goes all the way up to about 180deg, not sure when your IAT would get that high.
i don't want to complicate things, i still think the "spark retard timing limit" table is still the easiest way to adjust out TM but it looks to me there may be other effects than just TM
i don't want to complicate things, i still think the "spark retard timing limit" table is still the easiest way to adjust out TM but it looks to me there may be other effects than just TM


