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Old 07-22-2002, 09:58 AM
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Just wondering, after looking at the instructions on the carputing site I was unclear about toggling SES lights. I noticed that you can turn the test on or off, but then there is an option for showing the MIL. All it shows on the freeze frame picture in the instructions is a Type B MIL. Then it says you can toggle it. So my question is, what are the toggle options? Can you make a Type B into a Type A? Or just turn it off? I’m asking because I’m going to be trying to undo some tuning that someone else did with Edit on my PCM and I don’t know if certain DTCs were a type A or type B originally, so I’m hoping I won’t have to choose.
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You can toggle between: Type A=MIL on 1st error; Type B=MIL on 2nd error; Type C=No MIL light; and Type X=turned off. I could tell you what the stock settings are if you need to know.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Predator:
<strong>You can toggle between: Type A=MIL on 1st error; Type B=MIL on 2nd error; Type C=No MIL light; and Type X=turned off. I could tell you what the stock settings are if you need to know.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That would be great if you could give me the stock settings! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I have no clue what they are. I’m looking for the stock settings to the rear O2 codes, EGR stuff, and misfire codes (P0300 to P0308).

Thanks for any help you can give! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Thank You Predator!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Very cool.

That is the info I needed <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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One last question though...there are more rear O2s codes than just those 4 though, correct? If I encounter any others that are turned off, should I just make them a type B since it seems that all the others are a type B?? Or are these the only O2 codes that Edit lets you mess with? Like I said, another shop tuned my PCM with Edit and I’m trying to undo some of what they did, so if Edit can’t do it then I’m sure they didn’t do it.

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Those were the only "rear" O2 codes listed. I'll get back to you in about an hour-and-a-half (I have a guitar lesson <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> )and I have to run now, but when I get back I'll list all the O2 codes on the list, and the stock settings. Let me know if there's anything else you need.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Predator:
<strong>Those were the only "rear" O2 codes listed. I'll get back to you in about an hour-and-a-half (I have a guitar lesson <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> )and I have to run now, but when I get back I'll list all the O2 codes on the list, and the stock settings. Let me know if there's anything else you need.

Later</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anything you can find related to stock settings for (front and rear just in case) O2s, misfires, and/or EGR stuff would be great. Thanks a TON. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I have to get all this stuff back to stock to pass the new IL emissions OBD II scan (incase you were wondering why I need all this).

Again, this is very cool of you. Thanks a lot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

PS. Just out of curiosity, where is this "list"? Is it something anyone can access? Just in case I need any other stock info...
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I'm back <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> .

The "list" is located in the "Engine Diagnostic" section from the "File" menu, and in the "Hardware Diagnostics" folder, in LS1 Edit. You have all the misfire and EGR settings, but I'll write out the rest of the O2 ones.

P0133 (O2 slow response, Bank1 Sensor1) "Type B"
P0135 (O2 Heater Circuit, Bank1 Sensor1) "Type B"
P0137 (O2 low voltage, Bank1 Sensor2) "Type B"
P0138 (O2 high voltage, Bank1 Sensor2) "Type B"
P0153 (O2 slow response, Bank2 Sensor1) "Type B"
P0155 (O2 heater circuit, Bank2 Sensor1) "Type B"
P0157 (O2 low voltage, Bank2 Sensor2) "Type B"
P0158 (O2 high voltage, Bank2 Sensor2) "Type B"
P1133 (O2 Insufficient Switching, Bank1 Sensor1 "Type B"
P1134 (O2 Transition Time ratio, Bank1 Sensor2) "Type B"
P1153 (O2 Insufficient Switching, Bank2 Sensor1) "Type B"
P1154 (O2 Transition time ratio, Bank2 Sensor2) "Type B"

That's all the EGR, O2, and misfire codes listed in my version (2000 LS1).
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All the O2 settings and the misfire setting are "Type B." The EGR codes have different settings, as listed earlier. Good luck with the emissions test.
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Rear O2s:
P0140 (Left Rear O2 Open) "Type B"
P0141 (Left Rear O2 Heater Open) "Type B"
P0160 (Right Rear O2 Open) "Type B"
P0161 (Right Rear O2 Heater Open) "Type B"

EGR:
P0400 (EGR Low Delta MAP) OFF "Type X"
P0401 (EGR system flow insufficient) "Type A"
P0404 (EGR system performance) "Type B"
P0405 (EGR pintle position) "Type B"
P1404 (EGR valve, Pintle stuck open) "Type A"

Misfires (just one code on list):
P0300 (Misfire Detection) "Type B"
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Excellent! Thanks again, this should be all I need as far as I know. I don’t think they deleted any other types of codes.

Great info, thanks for taking the time to give it to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Lets hope the IL EPA is happy now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Glad I could help, if I did.




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