ls6 maf on a 97 C5
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 I have been trying to get an answer to this question for two weeks. I asked Carputing via e-mail about the availability of LS6 MAF table data but they have not answered. I am sure of this much: If the size of the MAF table is the same in the LS1 and the LS6 PCMs then you only need to copy the correct LS6 MAF table to your PCM. The MAF tables are probably the same size, that would simplify production and maintenance for GM, but it is a question I would like confirmed. Same size table means the same number of calibration points. In any case, the guys at Carputing could answer your question.
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 David,
Thanks much for the information. I was able to copy and paste directly into Excel. What year is your data? ’01 and ’02 LS6 MAFs are different. I don’t know if the calibration tables are different.
-Gary
Thanks much for the information. I was able to copy and paste directly into Excel. What year is your data? ’01 and ’02 LS6 MAFs are different. I don’t know if the calibration tables are different.
-Gary
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 That looks like a 6.0L truck MAF table as it states, and not an LS6 table (01 or 02).
Since the 97 MAF table is smaller than the 01 and up, I think you need a copy of the table that corresponds to the MAF you are using (01 or 02), and then make point by point entries into your 97 table at the correct (matching) frequencies.
Since the 97 MAF table is smaller than the 01 and up, I think you need a copy of the table that corresponds to the MAF you are using (01 or 02), and then make point by point entries into your 97 table at the correct (matching) frequencies.
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ls6 maf on a 97 C5 Currently I have a ls6 Maf on my C5. I use the maftraslator to convert the signal. But I do have ls1 edit and would like to remove the Maf translator. What do I have to do to calibrate the signal with ls1 edit so I don't need the translator?
Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 i was told all the 85mm maf's are the same calibration.
show me the differnt 85mm maf's available (factory)
my maf is an 01 ls6 and this table is what i use with it.
speartech, the 97 maf table stops at 11250 like my 98 table, just input the data as shown and stop at that point
if you move the end g/sec to the end of 97-98 scale, then the maf is no longer telling the computer the right amount of air.
show me the differnt 85mm maf's available (factory)
my maf is an 01 ls6 and this table is what i use with it.
speartech, the 97 maf table stops at 11250 like my 98 table, just input the data as shown and stop at that point
if you move the end g/sec to the end of 97-98 scale, then the maf is no longer telling the computer the right amount of air.
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MIGHTYMOUSE:
<strong> i was told all the 85mm maf's are the same calibration.
show me the differnt 85mm maf's available (factory)
my maf is an 01 ls6 and this table is what i use with it.
speartech, the 97 maf table stops at 11250 like my 98 table, just input the data as shown and stop at that point
if you move the end g/sec to the end of 97-98 scale, then the maf is no longer telling the computer the right amount of air. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Mighty am I safe to use that table and remove the translator and everything should work ok?
<strong> i was told all the 85mm maf's are the same calibration.
show me the differnt 85mm maf's available (factory)
my maf is an 01 ls6 and this table is what i use with it.
speartech, the 97 maf table stops at 11250 like my 98 table, just input the data as shown and stop at that point
if you move the end g/sec to the end of 97-98 scale, then the maf is no longer telling the computer the right amount of air. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Mighty am I safe to use that table and remove the translator and everything should work ok?
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 Mightymouse, you were told wrong. I don't have them in excel format to throw up, but:
The 2001 Z06 MAF table ends at 428.46 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The 2002 descreened MAF ends at 443.60 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The trucks end at 453.69 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
Those are the FACTORY numbers.
The newer MAF table is longer on BOTH ends. That's why I mentioned a point by point entry at the MATCHING frequencies, but I see someone has already clipped off all of the lower numbers on that posted table.
The newer MAF tables (01 and up) start at 750 Hz instead of 1500 Hz and run to 12000 Hz.
Using that posted table will get you close, but in actuality they are different.
John
The 2001 Z06 MAF table ends at 428.46 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The 2002 descreened MAF ends at 443.60 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The trucks end at 453.69 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
Those are the FACTORY numbers.
The newer MAF table is longer on BOTH ends. That's why I mentioned a point by point entry at the MATCHING frequencies, but I see someone has already clipped off all of the lower numbers on that posted table.
The newer MAF tables (01 and up) start at 750 Hz instead of 1500 Hz and run to 12000 Hz.
Using that posted table will get you close, but in actuality they are different.
John
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 ok then john, thanks for the heads up.. now we need the tables <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
i need the 01 ls6 table pretty please.
i need the 01 ls6 table pretty please.
Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Speartech:
<strong> Mightymouse, you were told wrong. I don't have them in excel format to throw up, but:
The 2001 Z06 MAF table ends at 428.46 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The 2002 descreened MAF ends at 443.60 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The trucks end at 453.69 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
Those are the FACTORY numbers.
The newer MAF table is longer on BOTH ends. That's why I mentioned a point by point entry at the MATCHING frequencies, but I see someone has already clipped off all of the lower numbers on that posted table.
The newer MAF tables (01 and up) start at 750 Hz instead of 1500 Hz and run to 12000 Hz.
Using that posted table will get you close, but in actuality they are different.
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And Speartech can I have the 02 ls6 Z06 table. ? Thanks
<strong> Mightymouse, you were told wrong. I don't have them in excel format to throw up, but:
The 2001 Z06 MAF table ends at 428.46 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The 2002 descreened MAF ends at 443.60 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
The trucks end at 453.69 gms/sec @ 12000 Hz.
Those are the FACTORY numbers.
The newer MAF table is longer on BOTH ends. That's why I mentioned a point by point entry at the MATCHING frequencies, but I see someone has already clipped off all of the lower numbers on that posted table.
The newer MAF tables (01 and up) start at 750 Hz instead of 1500 Hz and run to 12000 Hz.
Using that posted table will get you close, but in actuality they are different.
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And Speartech can I have the 02 ls6 Z06 table. ? Thanks
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 If you guys are using Edit, how about if I email a .LS1 file from the correct year car to each of you??
John
John
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Speartech:
<strong> If you guys are using Edit, how about if I email a .LS1 file from the correct year car to each of you??
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I emailed you my file. Thanks John <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<strong> If you guys are using Edit, how about if I email a .LS1 file from the correct year car to each of you??
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I emailed you my file. Thanks John <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 when i try to open any of the vette files on ls1edit.com i get the 'you are trying to edit a vin number of a car you have not register'd' mumbo jumbo so i cant get to the maf table.
feel free to send me one and ill try to open it.
feel free to send me one and ill try to open it.
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 Sent ya mail!
John
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91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 01zo6maf from speartech (thanks!)
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Speartech:
<strong> Sent ya mail!
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Never got the email.
<strong> Sent ya mail!
John </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Never got the email.
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Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 I've done a number of these conversions.. they are not always successful..
The MAF is a larger bore.. your air filter system and the "accordian" will have to be replaced.
The MAF is a 5 pin device.. the IAT is now a part of the MAF.
The MAF table inside the PCM is alot different.. Not only is the table larger, the step sizes are variable and there is a great deal more resolution at low levels.
Using this MAF on an early LS1 may deliver a problematic idle.. the early PCM simply doesnt have enough resolution at low levels to deliver a decent idle.
Now, the above is not to say it cannot be done, but that the results may not be what you are looking for....
The MAF is a larger bore.. your air filter system and the "accordian" will have to be replaced.
The MAF is a 5 pin device.. the IAT is now a part of the MAF.
The MAF table inside the PCM is alot different.. Not only is the table larger, the step sizes are variable and there is a great deal more resolution at low levels.
Using this MAF on an early LS1 may deliver a problematic idle.. the early PCM simply doesnt have enough resolution at low levels to deliver a decent idle.
Now, the above is not to say it cannot be done, but that the results may not be what you are looking for....
Re: ls6 maf on a 97 C5 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nevrenuf:
<strong> I've done a number of these conversions.. they are not always successful..
The MAF is a larger bore.. your air filter system and the "accordian" will have to be replaced.
The MAF is a 5 pin device.. the IAT is now a part of the MAF.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am already doing it I just want to get rid of the Maf translator that is converting the signal to a ls1 signal. My car runs great
<strong> I've done a number of these conversions.. they are not always successful..
The MAF is a larger bore.. your air filter system and the "accordian" will have to be replaced.
The MAF is a 5 pin device.. the IAT is now a part of the MAF.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am already doing it I just want to get rid of the Maf translator that is converting the signal to a ls1 signal. My car runs great