slow

iTrader: (7)

Wondering if any of the electronic people here have looked inside their LS1 edit cable? Wondering if there are a lot of chips, or just a few.

If anybody has, can you remove the chips inside, or are they all hard soldered into the board.

Just wondering if there is any way to "put back to stock" with a chip programmer after you are done using your cable. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />

Ryan.

nevrenuf

So basically you are asking us how to bypass Ken's copy protection ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I think you'll find a lack of support for that here..

ChrisB

I haven't checked out a cable, but it's pretty trivial to code protect a uController, and near impossible to pull the data back out if it is code protected. I would imagine the LS1Edit cable would take advantage of this.

You would probably have better luck using the SAE documentation to produce your own cable than hack into the chips.


Chris

slow

iTrader: (7)

sorry, the wording was not exactly how i meant it to come across.

I am going to buy LS1edit in the next month or so, but was seeing if there was a way to sell it if i sold the car for a newer one.

Guess i will just keep it, and just send it back to carputing, and have them reporgram it for a new vin.

Ryan.

DeathDealer

What is the charge to re-program for a new VIN if you sell your car, anyone know?

Camaroholic

iTrader: (1)

Well, it's $150 to add a second VIN on to your cable, so I'd assume that the pricing would be in that ballpark.

As for what's in that cable.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

-Andrew

J&JsTA

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DeathDealer:
<strong> What is the charge to re-program for a new VIN if you sell your car, anyone know? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Answer to that question from Dave at Carputing:

You can transfer LS1-edit to someone else. There is a $50 transfer fee.
If the person has bought your car, or is using your PCM with LS1-edit, he
is all set. Total price is $50.

If the new owner does not have your PCM, and you have less than 4 PCM's
licensed to the package, they can add a new PCM to the package. They need
to send in the interface module to us and purchase another license
(assuming the setup does not already have 4 used 4 PCM licenses). The
price to add another license is $150 plus $50 shipping and handling
Total price is $250 ($50 transfer, $150 new license, $50 shipping and
handling).

If the new customer wants the latest software (if you have an older
version), then they might also consider the software update service.
This would add $100 to the prices listed above.

<small>[ February 18, 2003, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: J&JsTA ]</small>

felton316

They are all hard soldered into the board. My guess is its a write once chip. So once it has your VIN, you can't write over it anymore. If you attempt to alter it, it could be a costly mistake ~$550 mistake!

<small>[ February 18, 2003, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: felton316 ]</small>

DeathDealer

Cool, thank you.

02BlackWS6

There is a controller chip on the board in the module. But it's sand papered off. Which is cool because they spend a lot of time getting this system to work. But i have a electronics back ground but even if i knew what chip it was and could hack it out of respect I wouldn't tell anyone. But most mult-controllers have developement software but it's still hard to know what they really did.

WS6 GreeN

Wow, that gets expensive QUICK. Can't wait for an alternative. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />