PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Long Trims At Wot

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 08:00 PM
  #1  
zrater's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: wisconsin
Default Long Trims At Wot

Positive + 1 Long Trims Ok At Wot.. Thanks
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:09 PM
  #2  
TT_Vert's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, Illinois
Default

nope, you need 0 Ltrims at WOT.

Dave
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 08:58 AM
  #3  
zrater's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: wisconsin
Default

little to lean or what///////////
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:33 AM
  #4  
white2001s10's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,851
Likes: 0
From: Fairview Heights Illinois
Default

Most people prefer either zero or a negative 1 or 2 LTFT when at WOT.

Positive trims get applied to the WOT fueling, but negative trims do not.
If you have negative or zero, then you run more consistently at WOT.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:35 AM
  #5  
TT_Vert's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, Illinois
Default

if your L trims are negative they will zero at WOT in all of my experience. If you are experiencing + Ltrims at WOT, somewhere up to WOT has a + Ltrim. This will lead to inconsistent WOT fueling.

Dave
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:50 AM
  #6  
shizon's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Default

Ltrims are actually zero at WOT regardless, in a sense. The pcm is in open loop and no fuel learning is done. The only thing that it will do is use the last cell's ltrim value to add to the mix if it is adding fuel to ensure there is not a lean state.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:53 AM
  #7  
TT_Vert's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
From: Elgin, Illinois
Default

ive had positive .8 to 1.6 L trims at WOT . Ive heard peopel saying that is how that + Ltrim comes into play, but i've had times where i went WOT and had ZERO + Ltrims before going WOT and still have + L trims

dave
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 10:23 AM
  #8  
shizon's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Default

Are you sure you were in open loop? The computer doesn't have the ability to learn a fuel trim in open loop because of the o2 sensors so it can't be an LTRIM in a learning sense. It's just not possible. However it is possible to be at 100%TPS and not be in PE, ask the truck guys.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 10:40 AM
  #9  
zrater's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: wisconsin
Default

is going positive , going lean or adding fuel.

Last edited by zrater; Feb 27, 2006 at 10:53 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:03 AM
  #10  
horist's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,036
Likes: 1
From: Lake Zurich, IL
Default

positive = lean condition detected and the PCM is adding more fuel
negative = rich condition detected and the PCM is subtracting fuel
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:29 AM
  #11  
zrater's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: wisconsin
Default

thanks. thats that what i wanted to no....................... close.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:37 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE