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Old 11-15-2006, 01:58 AM
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Default laptop fried, lost my file

just wonderinf if i can still extract the file (.bin) from my pcm.

or am i fucked? im using hptuners.

i have the stock file saved on floppy disk but not my modded tune.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:45 AM
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Why not? Im sure you can.
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:29 AM
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just do a read entire if it's still in the pcm
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just do a read entire if it's still in the pcm
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how do you read entire and get a .bin file out of hptuners?

I'm fairly sure you will only get a .hpt encrypted file. (unless you still have a 1.x install CD laying around)

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how do you read entire and get a .bin file out of hptuners?

I'm fairly sure you will only get a .hpt encrypted file. (unless you still have a 1.x install CD laying around)

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correct 2.0.x extracts the files as an hpt file rather then bin...but it will still extract the file which I think is his main goal at this point.
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thanks guys i will try it once i find my install cd.
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Originally Posted by slow
how do you read entire and get a .bin file out of hptuners?

I'm fairly sure you will only get a .hpt encrypted file. (unless you still have a 1.x install CD laying around)

Ryan
yeppers...only use a 1.x hpt to retrieve the file/tune.
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My friend did something like that had his laptop logging when he was at the track and when he ended his run comp didnt work his tuner says probably too much force on the HD from the launch xD
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My friend did something like that had his laptop logging when he was at the track and when he ended his run comp didnt work his tuner says probably too much force on the HD from the launch xD
Sorry, as a computer engineer I can't buy this one. Only if the hd was extremely weak and ready to fail could this possibly happen. Look at the specs for hdd, they are well above the forces we could possibly put on them. Sounds fishy to me.
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Laptop harddrives fail all the time. At least in the older generations. Talking pre-pentium IV.

I have owned many laptops ranging from 486's to P III and every single one I have had to buy a replacement harddrive for after about 3 years.

It probably did fail but not from that. They seem to wear out fast. Maybe from the reduced airflow through a laptop as compared to a desktop.

Also, keep in mind that dropping a laptop DOES put much more than 1 G on it. Repetitive forces much less than that over time can destroy the minutely small wire on the end of the read/write head. Then, boom! Headcrash.

Even if a particle of dust was in the hard drive it could eventaully make its way between the head and the disk causing failure. One little particle. It would take time but it could happen!
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2002, I agree with almost all of your observations. However;
The laptop was in a car. It was sitting either on the floor or on the seat. It was not reported that it was dropped. So, one must assume that it was cushioned. So I suggest that g-forces were not an issue.
As far as impurities, sure. But hard drives are assembled in a clean room. So I also suggest that this is not an issue. I too have used laptops for around 15 years, including harsh invironments (if you count on the hanger deck of an aircraft carrier during flight ops a harsh environment) and I have not had one fail yet (first one was a 386 in 1991).
I carry a laptop with me every time I go to the track. I am just starting on my second one, because my original one was too old (W98SE) to do the things I wanted to do. On its original hard drive. Just my own experience, your mileage may vary.
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Hard drive failure seems to have a lot to do with brand/quality. I have seen several maxtor failures and few if any seagate failures. There are lots of other brands, those are just two examples I have a lot of experience with.
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Originally Posted by gametech
Hard drive failure seems to have a lot to do with brand/quality. I have seen several maxtor failures and few if any seagate failures. There are lots of other brands, those are just two examples I have a lot of experience with.
I cannot disagree with you as far as desktop drives go. Samsung is also not very reliable. Western Digital is one of the most reliable drives, in my experience.
However, this is about premature failure of generic laptop (assuming 2 1/2") drives.
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You would be suprised... at how many recall there all. Not everything is as perfect in the technology business as you think it is.

Half the chips that Intel makes are worthless from the get-go.


Don't assume the probability for the release of a doomed product is impossible.

I also find it odd that if you should not have problem with this in your own experience that you should comment. Why, then? It doesn't aid anyone to accredit the failure to nothing and discredit manufacturing or a G-force excedence especially since you are assuming how well it was taken care of.

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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
You would be suprised... at how many recall there all. Not everything is as perfect in the technology business as you think it is.
Half the chips that Intel makes are worthless from the get-go.
Don't assume the probability for the release of a doomed product is impossible.
This is funny. I purchased a Pentium 60 for my company, only to find out that it could have the math error. As I think it is? You assume much, Six Speed.
Having built my first computer in 1982, never having owned a store bought computer except for my laptops (I currently have 3) and owning my own computer networking business for the last 12 years, I believe that I have enough knowledge to discuss this topic.
Oh, and learn how to spell and correctly use the word exceedance.
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My laptop slid off my hood a few times and its still going.Shock test
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Originally Posted by dc96819
My laptop slid off my hood a few times and its still going.Shock test
Now that is a shock test. Acceleration is 9.81 m/s/s, so you subjected your hdd to several g's. My wife, OTOH, dropped her cell phone multiple times (more than four). It finally said "I am done" and would not boot again.
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