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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Thumbs up Any tips on tuning a HUGE cam????

anyone have any tiops for a huge solid roller. i mean IMO its BIG. over 700

any tips?
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Patience
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And set up a fan so the exhaust fumes don't kill you while tuning.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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And set up a fan so the exhaust fumes don't kill you while tuning.
i will be tunning at the track
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Scrap the stock pcm and go with BS3.Ive tryed tuning the stock pcm and was never able to get the car happy.With BS3 i can reach my hand in the window and start the car even when cold.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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make use of HPT's or EFIL's 1-bar speed density OS's; save that BS3 $$.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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if you're using HPT ... apply 1 credit for RTT cheap and makes idle tuning VERY easy

for WOT... scan and change, scan and change.... never dealt with anything that big but I'd expect the same concepts to apply
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by horist
if you're using HPT ... apply 1 credit for RTT cheap and makes idle tuning VERY easy

for WOT... scan and change, scan and change.... never dealt with anything that big but I'd expect the same concepts to apply
Or for 2 credits, get the 1-bar SD AND real time tuning.... hell of a deal for what you can get out of it. I wouldn't screw around with a MAF at all (I'm sure you're not, I'm just throwing that out for others) on a setup like that.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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^^^ the 1 bar Speed Density and MAF RTT both are only 1 credit

it's 2 credits if you want 2 or 3 bar Speed Density with RTT
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Or for 2 credits, get the 1-bar SD AND real time tuning.... hell of a deal for what you can get out of it. I wouldn't screw around with a MAF at all (I'm sure you're not, I'm just throwing that out for others) on a setup like that.
RTT comes free with most of our 1 bar SD custom OS's meaning only 1 credit is used. You really can't beat the value of real time tuning for that price.
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I'm working on a 2-bar file right now.... it was a slip
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Stick with the factory computer..

Big solid roller around .750 lift. Done with Efilive OS5 (for future nitrous) and a Moates.net road runner. You can accomplish the same thing with Hptuners.


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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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keep the info coming. thanks alot
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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If you are going to stay with the factory PCM go witht he EFI/LIVE RoadRunner setup. Changes are made automaticly just like a aftermarket standalone. No stopping to reflash.

HPT will do all the same and for cheaper. You just have to copy, paste, and flash the PCM before changes are permanant.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by horist
if you're using HPT ... apply 1 credit for RTT cheap and makes idle tuning VERY easy

for WOT... scan and change, scan and change.... never dealt with anything that big but I'd expect the same concepts to apply
closed loop idle tuning with such a huge(presumably) cam probably wont work, manual or RTT.

with so much overlap, unburned air/fuel is blowing by the exhaust valve borking the O2 sensors, causing it to dump more fuel

idle will have to be done manually, by turning off closed loop in the idle cell ranges, and manually adjusting the AFR until it idles decent, then updating the VE range with those numbers.

be sure to add alot of timing as well. all of this is assuming alot of overlap, but since all he mentions is lift and not any other numbers this may all be unecessary.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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BOTH HPTuners and EFI LIVE can do the same thing. we have discovered this.

but for my 0.02 cents; I have efi live. you would be amazed what the stock computer can do with some few mods such as a custom OS or such...
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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EFI Live Custom OS 5 will allow you to run TPS vs RPM instead of MAP vs RPM for your VE tuning. This makes your part throttle tuning have MUCH more resolution and you can dail that big cam to idle and drive like a much smaller one. If HPT has the same feature, it is very worthwhile to use.
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The real time tuning would be nice.

The best solution will be to convert that thing to Speed Density (1 bar). Speed density tuning will solve most of your big cam problems as soon as you convert the PCM.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
EFI Live Custom OS 5 will allow you to run TPS vs RPM instead of MAP vs RPM for your VE tuning. This makes your part throttle tuning have MUCH more resolution and you can dail that big cam to idle and drive like a much smaller one. If HPT has the same feature, it is very worthwhile to use.
Yes, our 1 bar SD OS has always had a tps vs. rpm table
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