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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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Bunch of widebands on the market these days. Whats eveyones favorite and why. NGK makes one and AEM and PLX along with all the Innovative stuff, but the Innovative stuff is more expensive. NGK is a trusted automotive name and PLX is a good deal. Lets hear it. I need to buy one.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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I can't speak about other brands, but I have a Innovate LM-1 and have been very happy with it!
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don't get a PLX...

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12388

I wasted money on one just to find out they are inaccurate from 13.5 and up AFR's.. below 13.5 afr the PLX is fine though so WOT tuning would still be OK but don't plan on simming the NB the PLX because it of the way it reads much leaner than it should and will throw off the trims. Literally the PLX will read 15.6 afr when the car is actually at stoich 14.7 and PLX has no way to calibrate it. If you read that thread there were lots of theories from claiming that mods throw off the car to location of the WB to grounds but in the end no answer was found.. its just off by a lot at stoich.

I swapped the PLX for an LC1 and the LC1 read correctly and is no problem to sim the NB and can be re-calibrated as needed once a year or more as it should as well.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Anyone have experience with the AEM?
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by myfast70
I can't speak about other brands, but I have a Innovate LM-1 and have been very happy with it!
boooyaw!! same here
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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I have an AEM, It reads exactly what the wideband used for the tune on the mustang dyno read. I like it so far. It's been in a few weeks. I got the gauge by it's self when I bought my NO2 kit. I spend about $100 for the wiring harnesses and the widebank O2 sensor. So far so good.
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I suspect there will be more favoritism towards the Innovative as the AEM is new here. But its a better deal, or at least it looks like it and the guage isnt a $200 option.
The LC1 alone is only $199.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Just like any of the parts we buy for our cars...do it right the first time. Do yourself a favor and get the LM-1
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Another vote for the LM-1. Why save $100 on an inferior wideband to tune a $3000 plus engine.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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well Iv'e got a laptop and efilive coming with a road runner so I really only need the lc1 and maybe a guage
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
well Iv'e got a laptop and efilive coming with a road runner so I really only need the lc1 and maybe a guage
All of the Innovate stuff seems to be dead on! So you shouldn't go wrong with your purchase. I mainly purchased the LM-1 for all of it's logging capabilites. You can record up to I think 10-12 data channels for up to 45 minutes. That's pretty damn sweet for a "minimal" investment for what you get.
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I have the AEM, its a nice unit, works well so far but it doesnt go full spectrum like the others. It maxes somewhere around 16.
The PLX is a nice unit. Works well and major piece, its reliable. Too many bad stories about Innovative for me. Zeitronix makes another really nice unit, but honestly is catered more towards the boosted applications.
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+1 for the LM-1.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Innovate LC-1 plus guage on the way to me from ebay (Innovate wholesale) $235 shipped.
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