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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Question Timing retard through IAT, EFILIVE

I posted this on the efilive forum, but that forum is dead in comparison to tech, so here goes.

I have the iat relay/resistor trick done to try to pull timing when spraying, and by looking at the logs, my iat jumps to 178deg as soon as the noids open, but I get no timing retard??? My timing stays right where the high octance table says, and I can't figure out why?????

Here is the log, and related screen shots from my tune.
Does anyone have any ideas?
BTW, this is an 05 GTO
TIA,
Vinny




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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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If you could, post up your tune and your log file with the respective frames. Maybe there is a glitch in the software?!
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Haans249
If you could, post up your tune and your log file with the respective frames. Maybe there is a glitch in the software?!
I think there is a glitch, I'll post it up tonight. (its on my lap-top at home)
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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The scan snapshot you posted only showed IAT at 111*. Your tune shows no timing adjustment until 140*. Could you look for a WOT run, or one where your IAT's fall into the range of the table?
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
The scan snapshot you posted only showed IAT at 111*. Your tune shows no timing adjustment until 140*. Could you look for a WOT run, or one where your IAT's fall into the range of the table?
The 111 is just where the "line was" which wasn't even on the screen when I hit "print screen", but you can see where the IAT bumps up to 178deg, and the timing dosen't move at all.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Yeah, it also went pig rich at the same time according to your LM1. It looks like you did everything right though.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
Yeah, it also went pig rich at the same time according to your LM1
Yup, because the MAF got flogged by a healty dose of N20.
I'm working on leaning that out.
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What value (Ohm and power) resistor did you use with the relay mod?
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
What value (Ohm and power) resistor did you use with the relay mod?
Its 330ohms.
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Check the multipliers that are tied to IAT Spark reduction. There should be one based on (A) RPM and another based on (B) ECT. I believe the way it works is:

Commanded Timing + (Multiplier A x Multiplier B x Spark IAT table) = Delivered timing

So, if any of those multipliers are 0, then no change will be made to delivered timing.
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