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Old 07-05-2008, 01:15 PM
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Default Least expensive option (without laptop) for flashing between NA and Nitrous tune?

Prefer a handheld...... bring it on... what are my options?

Would be nice if you could just swap PCM's back and forth.... too bad it needs a crank position relearn... wonder how much a crank position relearn tool costs? Tech 2's are expensive.. what else does this?

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We can do a custom operating system that will essentially give you two tunes at the flip of a switch on the fly.
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Originally Posted by Doc
We can do a custom operating system that will essentially give you two tunes at the flip of a switch on the fly.
how much? and what?

I already have couple of good tunes..... both NA and Nitrous.
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sct xcal2

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Hptuners or efilive are able to edit a couple tables that adjust timing and fueling(i think 98-99 can't do fueling though) in relation to intake air temperature.

Basically, I have a relay that is triggered when i arm my system, it replaces the intake air temp sensor with a fixed resistor that makes it read the lowest possible temperature and then on the table i pull timing and adjust the fueling for it.

Working flawlessly for me so far, there's a lot of info on this site if you search, lemme know if you have any questions.
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$479.00 just to go from a NA tune to a N2O tune seems kinda pricey.

Also the folks that tuned the car used HP Tuners, I wonder if SCT will work with a HP Tuners tune... or can a SCT Dealer scan the file that is in the car and put it on the XCal2?
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any feedback?
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I think what Doc is referring to is COS 5 in EFI Live. Not used it myself as I use HP tuners; but it seems to be a convenient and cost efficient way to do what you're asking about. I'm not sure of the price though. I would also as pHEnomIC more about the setup he's proposing. I've read a little about it and there seems to be a lot of success with this method also.
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If you have efi live you could COS 5 it and run on n20 tune when your nitrous is armed.

I would just bite the bullet and buy efi live......its only a 1 time cost, unlike HPT.
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A Predator will allow you to accomplish this as well.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport
A Predator will allow you to accomplish this as well.

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with an HP tuners tune? Will it scan my existing tune or can I send you a file to load onto one?
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EFILives V2 hardware will soon have the black box flashing capability you're after. Live also has COS5 that will allow you to utilize a single tune for your application.

What ever you end up doing, tuning software is a good investment.

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Originally Posted by stevegrizzle
If you have efi live you could COS 5 it and run on n20 tune when your nitrous is armed.

I would just bite the bullet and buy efi live......its only a 1 time cost, unlike HPT.
HP tuners is also a one time cost. I think the price per vehicle tune is comporable; but I'm not 100% certain.
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he is talking about the extra cost for the custom OS upgrade.

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^ right, and credits for SD tunes, adding 2 and 3 bar maps ect ect ect......
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Starting with 2.22 which was publicly released yesterday makes it so that once you license just 1 of our custom operating systems you get ALL of them for free ie if you license the 1 bar SD COS you get the 1 bar MAF RTT, 2 bar SD, & 3 bar SD all at no added cost!

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here is what I want:


Handheld device that stores 2 tunes.....

1 for NA

1 for Nitrous

using my existing HP Tuners modified tables in my existing PCM....


for a lower price than 500.00...

DOES THIS EXIST?

I am sure if Charles Beyerch where still around and got the V8 platform off the ground I woulda been able to get this. He had a tuning suite that worked with Palms and smartphones or something.
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All you are changing is the timing, right? Cant you accomplish that with HP tuners?

I have an extra ecm, and thought that I would be able to switch them out, if needed. $75 to $100 for extra ecm, then reflash with your stock vin.
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Originally Posted by WizeAss
here is what I want:


Handheld device that stores 2 tunes.....

1 for NA

1 for Nitrous

using my existing HP Tuners modified tables in my existing PCM....


for a lower price than 500.00...

DOES THIS EXIST?

I am sure if Charles Beyerch where still around and got the V8 platform off the ground I woulda been able to get this. He had a tuning suite that worked with Palms and smartphones or something.

I know of a $50 solution that is *exactly* what you want, but it looks like I can't tell you about it until Monday or so...
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Originally Posted by Frost
I know of a $50 solution that is *exactly* what you want, but it looks like I can't tell you about it until Monday or so...
Monday yet?



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