View Poll Results: What is the best wideband out there?
Innovate LC-1 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Controller
43
16.54%
Innovate LM1
34
13.08%
Innovate LM2
19
7.31%
FAST Wide Band Air/Fuel Meter
22
8.46%
DynoJet Wideband Commander
12
4.62%
NGK Powerdex AFX
39
15.00%
AEM Uego Wideband Controller
49
18.85%
PLX AM AFR+ DM5
17
6.54%
Other
25
9.62%
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Best Wideband?
04-05-2009, 02:32 AM
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I have had FAST, LC1, and now AFX widebands.
The fast's dual sensors were neat-until both burned out. You either have to purchase a $20 software update or buy the sensors with the right resistors. You can't buy just any wideband sensor for them. Also, they would give a lot of funny readings in HP Tuners when I hooked the analog up. Tuning was a PIA. Both sensors kicked the bucket in about six months, probably due to having to turn the dang thing on each time manually.
Then I switched to the LC1. I was much happier with it. Since I do driving tunes, it was a better overall choice than the fast, although I had no way of comparing what the controller thought it was reading and what HP Tuners thought it was saying. Overall it was ok. Tuning was much easier, but it still had its bugs. It lasted roughly another six months, probably because the controller was outside the car.
Then I did some research and ordered the AFX. I have tuned 3 cars. It is probably the easiest to hook up, looks the most professional installed, has a monitor, and is very accurate. I purchased some battery clips for the power ends, run them to the battery, install the wideband, and good to go. It doesn't give me as many tuning headaches as the others. The fact it measures lamda and then converts to AF means you just have to do some math to use it with anything else. also, you have to correct for the fact it doesn't use 14.68 as stoich. Other than that though, no problems. Wiring it up was very easy (compared to the LC1), seems sturdy enough.
My only other comparison note among the three also relates to my usage. I carry them around to different places. The fast had the best "case", although the clasp broke easily. It was a hard plastic case with foam padding, which was great because WBO2 sensors are prone to damage from being dropped or hit. The innovative kit at least would fit inside its box. The AFX came with nothing really useful. I will make a case for it for transport.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
The fast's dual sensors were neat-until both burned out. You either have to purchase a $20 software update or buy the sensors with the right resistors. You can't buy just any wideband sensor for them. Also, they would give a lot of funny readings in HP Tuners when I hooked the analog up. Tuning was a PIA. Both sensors kicked the bucket in about six months, probably due to having to turn the dang thing on each time manually.
Then I switched to the LC1. I was much happier with it. Since I do driving tunes, it was a better overall choice than the fast, although I had no way of comparing what the controller thought it was reading and what HP Tuners thought it was saying. Overall it was ok. Tuning was much easier, but it still had its bugs. It lasted roughly another six months, probably because the controller was outside the car.
Then I did some research and ordered the AFX. I have tuned 3 cars. It is probably the easiest to hook up, looks the most professional installed, has a monitor, and is very accurate. I purchased some battery clips for the power ends, run them to the battery, install the wideband, and good to go. It doesn't give me as many tuning headaches as the others. The fact it measures lamda and then converts to AF means you just have to do some math to use it with anything else. also, you have to correct for the fact it doesn't use 14.68 as stoich. Other than that though, no problems. Wiring it up was very easy (compared to the LC1), seems sturdy enough.
My only other comparison note among the three also relates to my usage. I carry them around to different places. The fast had the best "case", although the clasp broke easily. It was a hard plastic case with foam padding, which was great because WBO2 sensors are prone to damage from being dropped or hit. The innovative kit at least would fit inside its box. The AFX came with nothing really useful. I will make a case for it for transport.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
04-17-2009, 06:33 PM
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After reading all this I bought the AFX. Funny thing is it comes with a bosch senser. Easy to hook up and easy to read while driving under boost. Bright red LED about 3/4".
06-15-2009, 07:33 PM
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and look how simple it is to install. 
