HID headlights or LEDs - LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion

Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 Birds of a feather flock together

HID headlights or LEDs

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-19-2017, 04:13 PM   #1
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 4
Default HID headlights or LEDs

Hey guys i cant seem to find any good HIDs or LEDs for my 99firebird im looking for a nice white like 6000k for my low beams and fogs if anyone has pictures or knows any PLEASE share thanks!
Fbody99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:22 PM   #2
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
blackbyrd's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: cookeville, TN
Posts: 3,158

The fogs are an 880 bulb, the headlights are a sealed beam unit meaning the entire lense and casing is disposable. You will have to retrofit another housing to run other bulbs either way. You will be told not to run HIDS unless you do a projector retrofit. As for the LEDs, I believe a bright enough unit puts out a lot of heat. Would likely melt your fog housing. The lowbeams even if you did a LMC conversion you won't have the space to install it. They have a deep heatsink on the back to help dissapate the heat.

Search LMC conversion to help understand that
Search for projector retrofit to get more info on that. Both of those should pop up innthe appearance section

Or buy a BLS kit
blackbyrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:08 AM   #3
On The Tree
Z28RS's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 187

From experience with several sets of fog lights on my wife's 2011 Ford Escape (the same housings used on 2010 - 2013 Camaros, 2007 - 2013 Avalanches, 2007 - 2014 Suburbans, as well as several other vehicles), I can assure you that LED bulbs — even the 4,000-lumen versions — will not melt your plastic fog light lenses at all.

Your fog light housings are roughly the same dimensions as the versions on my wife's SUV.

The LEDs are cooled by fans that do such a good job, the plastic lens only gets very mildly warm to the touch.

However, HIDs — both 35-watt and, especially, 55-watt — will certainly cause your reflector to melt around the bulb, and will cause a large heat dimple above the bulb on the lens cover.

Additionally, the lens will get so hot, you will burn your hand and even in the cold temperatures of wintertime, and the plastic lenses will melt even while driving in rain or at freeway speeds; rainwater and high-speed airflow aren't even enough to cool them down.

I was skeptical about LED headlight bulbs and fog light bulbs, but once I tried them, there's no way that I'll go back to HIDs again. As long as you get versions that put out at least 3,000- to 4,000-lumens each, (and not the decorative ones that are inexpensive and are generally listed as "fog light and DRL use only), you'll enjoy crisp, clear light that won't blind other drivers and is a nice improvement over the quality of HID.

I've found that, with round reflectors, LEDs bulbs with diodes closest to the housing reflector put out the best quality of light.

As a final example, I originally ran HIDs in our 1999 Mercury Tracer wagon. The light output was somewhat scattered and created distracting pools of light in front of the car. When I switched to LEDs, the light was brighter — but non-blinding to on-coming traffic — and was evenly distributed across the road. My LED bulbs were approximately $50.00 for the pair, and have been one of the very best upgrades that I've made to any of my three vehicles.

Use your best judgement to determine what will work best for you and your specific application.

Have a blessed day!
Z28RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 11:01 AM   #4
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
blackbyrd's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: cookeville, TN
Posts: 3,158

I have HID's in my fogs and havnt had melting issues, granted I have no experience with LED's just what I have read on the good ole interwebs. That said the fog light housing on birds is 4" diameter which I think is much larger than the camaro housing. Maybe thas why I havnt had an issue. Im actually planning on switching to those Morrimoto LED fogs lights some time soon ( think I spelled that correctly)
blackbyrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 11:04 PM   #5
iTrader: (12)
RevGTO's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
Posts: 5,162

35 watt HIDs will not cause any problems in your fog lamp housings. I've been using them for years with no issues. In fact, in driving on lighted streets around town at night, I never even use my pop-ups - my fogs are used daily.
RevGTO is offline   Reply With Quote

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Let's talk about LED headlights. *Not* in Stock Housings KissMyWhiteSS Stereo & Electronics 21 02-04-2017 07:52 PM
94 z28 headlight mods tannerwinberg Chevrolet Camaro 1967-2002 2 09-22-2016 03:06 PM
So I want to put HIDs on my 2001 SS Camaro Poofy01ssslp Chevrolet Camaro 1967-2002 2 06-04-2016 06:33 PM
9006 LED bulbs in Trans Am Dark SS Appearance & Detailing 9 05-11-2016 09:10 PM
LEDs SlasherVRGR Appearance & Detailing 5 03-14-2016 07:09 PM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:39 PM.

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Your question will be posted in: