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Fixed TA Headlights Coming (thread from Feb 2005)
03-11-2005, 02:05 PM
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Hey im picking up my first formula tonight and this is a mod im very interested in. My friend has some on his TA but they were $1000 and the clear plastic cover is bolted on 
. Looks like something i could have built in my garage.
Working in the aftermarket industry myself, i dont see how your going to run production numbers at only $400.00, but if you can all the better. Id like to see a durable quality design with factory like fitment. Nothing like carbon fiber or halos or any silly stuff. Clean and conservative like what the car should have had from the factory.
The double circle lights are fine but try to use a popular bulb size....9007...9006...h1...h3...etc. This will allow the use of aftermarket HID kits. They dont have to be any brighter than stock trust me people will buy them based on looks alone. They do however need to be "as bright" This way you keep cost down but customers still have the option of going with HIDS.
Just my .02 and good luck.
. Looks like something i could have built in my garage.Working in the aftermarket industry myself, i dont see how your going to run production numbers at only $400.00, but if you can all the better. Id like to see a durable quality design with factory like fitment. Nothing like carbon fiber or halos or any silly stuff. Clean and conservative like what the car should have had from the factory.
The double circle lights are fine but try to use a popular bulb size....9007...9006...h1...h3...etc. This will allow the use of aftermarket HID kits. They dont have to be any brighter than stock trust me people will buy them based on looks alone. They do however need to be "as bright" This way you keep cost down but customers still have the option of going with HIDS.
Just my .02 and good luck.
03-11-2005, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by psykoTA
I dont like fixed lights on a TA. It ruins the look of the car. Transams are transams. Not transams with wannabe camaro lights. Flip-up lights are a signature thing. It destroys the overall look.
Good luck to you with making your product. I am sure you can make something nice, but fixed lights will never look right IMO.
Good luck to you with making your product. I am sure you can make something nice, but fixed lights will never look right IMO.
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03-11-2005, 02:12 PM
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the corvette started without popups, and i think GM noticed how many ppl were putting the fixed conversions on vettes. fixed is also lighter, and not a air brake
03-11-2005, 02:50 PM
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When your friend said "these lights can't pull enough juice off of the regular wiring" he probably meant there was too much voltage loss due to the wiring having to go throughtout the car and throught the switch. By using a relay, you can prevent the voltage loss and thereby get more voltage to the lights. When done right it is a good thing and reduces the load on the factory switch.
03-12-2005, 07:35 AM
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*Update* The machine shop still has the patterns. The guys father just died a month or so ago, so he is tring to run the show by himself. Anyway he just finished up his really big order, and I am next in line. He says they will be done by tuesday/wednesday
If they aren't done, I am taking them somewhere else.
If they aren't done, I am taking them somewhere else.
03-12-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyLuvsMyTa
There are pics in the first post. It is a metal housing that holds sealed projector style lights. I will put up pics when I get them back.
So a metal housing with a lexan (or similar) cover in the shape of the factory headlights in the down position?
03-12-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
OK, I only thought the first pics were of the lights being held into position. I couldn't see any type of housing.
So a metal housing with a lexan (or similar) cover in the shape of the factory headlights in the down position?
So a metal housing with a lexan (or similar) cover in the shape of the factory headlights in the down position?
03-27-2005, 09:40 PM
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******* Update ********
First set is made. Here is a pic. I still have to mount them to the car, but I couldn't wait. The tear drop looking part on the bench is the piece that covers the whole thing. More pics soon.
First set is made. Here is a pic. I still have to mount them to the car, but I couldn't wait. The tear drop looking part on the bench is the piece that covers the whole thing. More pics soon.
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03-30-2005, 07:46 PM
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Sorry my computer is craping out. f***ing spyware. Anyway, No I am using lights that are just a little brighter than stock, but they project the light wider, and further. Huge differance to me. I wouldnt be able to sell these very cheap if i used the hella lights. I dont mind just selling the housing, and you guys can get your own lights. Instead of $400 we would be talking more like $250. Let me know what you think, and I will get them mounted to the car, and take some pics.
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I'm surprised to see the # of people interested in this. IMO, it's ugly. As stated earlier, it is signature to the Firebird. Yes, it started in 82 and they were exposed prior to that, doesn't matter. Flip up lights are part of the heritage and look.
Plus they look 100 time better than exposed lights. Flip up lights are all about "sports car". Exposed lights scream boring passenger car (aside from being ugly). The C6 is hideous. (The 'Vette is my all time favorite car, so I'm particularly bitter about that)
They are NOT "air brakes". That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard, and yet it's repeated incessently. They are only up at night. If you are driving fast enough at night for them to be a drag concern, you are driving too fast. That sort of speed should be reserved for daylight operations. You're not in Daytona or Sebring or LeMans.
To each their own, but that front end was designed for flip ups and exposed just look that much more out of place on it. And, while the LS1 Camaro is growing on me (admittedly), I hated it at first because it looked like a Chrysler 300 (the ones prior to the new Hemi models).
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heh heh )
Plus they look 100 time better than exposed lights. Flip up lights are all about "sports car". Exposed lights scream boring passenger car (aside from being ugly). The C6 is hideous. (The 'Vette is my all time favorite car, so I'm particularly bitter about that)
They are NOT "air brakes". That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard, and yet it's repeated incessently. They are only up at night. If you are driving fast enough at night for them to be a drag concern, you are driving too fast. That sort of speed should be reserved for daylight operations. You're not in Daytona or Sebring or LeMans.
To each their own, but that front end was designed for flip ups and exposed just look that much more out of place on it. And, while the LS1 Camaro is growing on me (admittedly), I hated it at first because it looked like a Chrysler 300 (the ones prior to the new Hemi models).
.02¢ (keep the change
heh heh )
04-07-2005, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HPP
I'm surprised to see the # of people interested in this. IMO, it's ugly. As stated earlier, it is signature to the Firebird. Yes, it started in 82 and they were exposed prior to that, doesn't matter. Flip up lights are part of the heritage and look.
Plus they look 100 time better than exposed lights. Flip up lights are all about "sports car". Exposed lights scream boring passenger car (aside from being ugly). The C6 is hideous. (The 'Vette is my all time favorite car, so I'm particularly bitter about that)
They are NOT "air brakes". That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard, and yet it's repeated incessently. They are only up at night. If you are driving fast enough at night for them to be a drag concern, you are driving too fast. That sort of speed should be reserved for daylight operations. You're not in Daytona or Sebring or LeMans.
To each their own, but that front end was designed for flip ups and exposed just look that much more out of place on it. And, while the LS1 Camaro is growing on me (admittedly), I hated it at first because it looked like a Chrysler 300 (the ones prior to the new Hemi models).
.02¢ (keep the change heh heh )
Plus they look 100 time better than exposed lights. Flip up lights are all about "sports car". Exposed lights scream boring passenger car (aside from being ugly). The C6 is hideous. (The 'Vette is my all time favorite car, so I'm particularly bitter about that)
They are NOT "air brakes". That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard, and yet it's repeated incessently. They are only up at night. If you are driving fast enough at night for them to be a drag concern, you are driving too fast. That sort of speed should be reserved for daylight operations. You're not in Daytona or Sebring or LeMans.
To each their own, but that front end was designed for flip ups and exposed just look that much more out of place on it. And, while the LS1 Camaro is growing on me (admittedly), I hated it at first because it looked like a Chrysler 300 (the ones prior to the new Hemi models).
.02¢ (keep the change
heh heh )Do you realize you come off as a mean and negative person? You might think about that when sharing your opinions. Sometimes "opinions" can hurt peoples feelings. You need to choose where and when to express yourself and I don't think all these supporters of BLMTA need to be scolded for wanting fixed lights.
That is my opinion. Thank you.
Last edited by JasonWW; 04-07-2005 at 09:09 PM.